Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers

oldskool · 01-17-2020, 06:00 PM

2012

At Pomona, Ryan Schole was #26 @ -.718. Peter was #38 @ -.621. Art was #48 @ -.514. Joel was #52. Keri was #55.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop

Peter broke, in round 6, & had to settle for a 3rd place finish.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop

At the AZ Nats, Peter was #17 @ -.764.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop

Peter got treed in the semi & had to settle for another 3rd place finish.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop

OK, since we'll now have results from the Lucas Oil Series div races, I'll try to list them with there div number, followed by a dash, followed by the season sequence number. So, this race will be called the LOS 7-1 race, since it is in div 7 & is the 1st LOS race of the season. In case of rainouts, sometimes the sequence numbers may not be in the correct order. This shorter race ID will require less time & space.

So @ LOS 7-1, Don K. was #3 @ -.925. Ryan was #28 @ -.605.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop

@ LOS 7-2, Don K. was #2 @ -.949. Ryan was #32 @ -.608. Robert was #43, & Art was #45.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop

@ LOS 4-1, J.B. was #22 @ -.682.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop

At the Cajun Sports Nats, J.B. was #61 @ -.636.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop

@ LOS 7-3, Robert was #2 @ - 1.001. Don K. was #6 @ -.905. Leo Glasbrenner was #14 @ -.826. Don't know if Leo had Pontiac power at that time, or not. Who knows ? Ryan was #34 @ -.600. Art was #61.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop

Don K. won that race !

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop

At the Spring Vegas race, Don K. was #3 @ -.947. Ryan was #29 @ -.697. Art was #54.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop

At the 4-wide Nats, Peter was #63. It seems that for some races, Peter uses the strategy of his rival, Dan Fletcher, by purposely qualifying low. I know this is a Pontiac thread, But since I've been lookin up race results, Dan Fletcher is the name that has popped up, most often, in the later rounds of races. I assume he has an awesome list of racing accomplishments. I'm sure that everybody who has kept up with Stock/SS racing knows about Dan. But, I'm just getting a look at some of what he did. So, at some point, I'll probably do some research & get all the info on his racing career. But, that's for another time, & perhaps another thread. This thread is for Pontiac powered SS cars.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop

Gonna start skipping a lot of races, unless there is a Pontiac that qualifies well, or one that makes it to at least the semi. @ LOS 3-1, Bill Rink was #6 @ -.980. Stacy was #12 @ -.955. Monte was #42 @ -.800. Greg was #44 @ -.793.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop

@ LOS 5-1, Robert was #5 @ -.782. Bill was #12 @ -.668. Carroll was #14 @ -.651.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop

Robert was beaten by his son, in the semi.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop

@ LOS 3-2, Greg was #39 @ -.724. Johnny Duncan was #66.

But the reason I'm including this Q-list is because of the next 2 cars. The 1st is a 1970 GTO, driven by Bill Eadelis. How long has it been since ya'll saw a '70 GTO SS car, before this one ?

The other car is what I think is an SD455 powered '73 auto trans SS Bird, driven by Russ Abrams. I know that Bob Michael & Don K. ran one. Who has run one, in this century ? Maybe there is one, or some, that I don't know about. Those SD455 parts are so rare & expensive now, it's not likely that anybody else will try to build a SD455 powered SS car, in the future. Don't know if any of the GT guys will run one in the future, or not. I suppose that for many guys with enuff money to do this, a rare expensive set of head cores is not a problem. So, maybe we WILL continue to see a few SD455 headed engines on the track.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop

@ LOS 1-2, Vic Santos was#12 @ -.851. Don K. was #14 @ -.822. Sal P. was #61.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop

Well, that gets us thru May of 2012. Again, if any of ya'll know of Pontiac wins at other races during the season, please post that info.

oldskool · 01-17-2020, 08:45 PM

2012 contd.

At Englishtown, Don K. was #7 @ -.981. Peter was #21 @ -.869. Sal P. was #74.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop

Peter & Don K. both got their class win.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop

@ LOS 5-3, Carroll Warling was #1 @ - 1.063. Don K. was #2 @ -.974.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop

Don K. made it to the semi.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop

At Bristol, Peter was #6 & won the race !

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop

@ LOS 1-3, Vic Santos was #1 @ -.899.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop

@ LOS 1-4, Vic was again #1, this time @ - 1.082.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop

@ LOS 7-5, Don K. was #3 @ -.914. Keri was #19.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop

@ LOS 5-4, Carroll was #3 @ -.991. Bill Rink was #9 @ -.894. Greg Meyer was #28.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop

@ LOS 5-6, Robert Cruzen was #3 @ -.990. Greg was #21 @ -.845.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop

At the Northern Sports Nats, Bill Rink was #17 @ -.938.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop

At the Auto-Plus Nats, Sal P. was #31 @ -.634.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop

At Top Sportsman Pacific Sports Nats, Robert Cruzen was #1 @ - 1.002. Don K. was #5 @ -.930.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop

At the Big O Tires Nats, Don K. was #8 @ -.958. Robert was #10 @ -.937. Other Pontiacs on the list were Ryan Schloe #54, J.B. #60, Keri #66, & Art #76. Leo Glasbrenner was on the list. But, his car was listed as having a 350 engine. Since he's raced Pontiac powered cars, I'd assumed that his 4th gen Bird GT car had Pontiac power. But, now I'm more inclined to believe that the 350 mentioned was probably a Chevy 350, that was in the car when he bought it. But, that is mere speculation on my part. If anybody here knows for sure what brand of 350 was in his GT car, at this race, please post that info.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop

@ LOS 7-6, Don K. was #5 @ -.974. Robert was #8 @ -.928. Ryan was #47, Keri #48, & J.B. #50.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop

At the Pomona Finals, Robert was #9 @ -.888. Ryan was #35 @ -.612. Keri was #37 @ -.597.Joel was #48 @ -.472.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop

That wraps up 2012, with what I found. Looks like Don K. raced from coast to coast that year.

oldskool · 01-18-2020, 04:38 AM

2013

At the Winter Nats, Robert was #3 @ -.959. Leo was #28 @ -.631. He'd moved up several classes, so I assume he'd swapped over to Pontiac power. Joel, Art, & Keri were also on the list.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop

At the AZ Nats, Robert was #4 @ -.935. Don K. was #5 @ .928. Leo was #32 @ -.624.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop

@ LOS 7-1, Robert was #1 @ - 1.032. Don K. was #12 @ -.869. Leo was #38 @ -.669. Joel was #49.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop

@ LOS 7-2, Robert was #1 @ -.936. Don K. was #6 @ -.821. Leo Was #30 @ -.651.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop

Robert lost in the semi, when his opponent cut a .001 light.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop

@ LOS 2-2, Peter was #17 @ -.912, & won the race !

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop

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At the Gators, Peter was #47 @ -.712.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop

@ LOS 7-3, Don K. was #2 @ -.947. Robert was #3 @ -.940. Leo was #27, Ryan #36, & Keri #53.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop

Robert won this one !

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop

At the Vegas Summit Nats, Don K. was #1 @ -.951, Robert was #2 @ -.947. That's pretty cool. Pontiac power was #1 & #2 at a nat event !

Leo was #34 @ -.688. Keri was #61.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop

A the 4-Wide Nats, Peter was #26 & got RU.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop

@ LOS 5-1 Carroll was #4 @ -.941 & got 3rd.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop

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That's about it thru May. That year there were very few Pontiac SS cars running in the East. And none in the Northwest. Can't think of any in div 2 or 6 that year. I think J.B. had the only one in div 4. Carroll may have had the only one in div 5. Hey, I could be wrong, again.

oldskool · 01-18-2020, 06:26 AM

2013 contd.

@ LOS 3-3, Bill Rink was #15 @ -.914. Greg Meyer was #26 @ -.825.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop

@ LOS 7-4, Leo was #2 @ -.773. Robert Cruzen was #4 @ -.669.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop

Leo got RU.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop

@ LOS 1-3, Vic Santos was #6 @ -.892, in a '78 Bird, running GT/IA. I was only familiar with his 3rd gen Bird GT car. So, who knows what other Pontiacs Vic has raced ?

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop

Vic went a tick too quick, in the semi.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop

@ LOS 5-3, Carroll was #1 @ -.978.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop

At the New England Nats, Vic Santos was #3 @ - 1.024. Peter was #26 @ -.646.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop

@ LOS 3-4, Bill Rink was #10 @ -.860. Greg Meyer was #15 @ -.776.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop

At the Mile-High Nats, Carroll was #3 @ -.926, in GT/MA.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop

@ LOS 1-4, Vic Santos was #3 @ -.842.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop

At the Lucas Oil Nats, Greg Meyer was #11 @ -.753.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop

Greg had to settle for 3rd place at this race, because his semifinal opponent cut a perfect .000 light. And check this out. That guy had cut a .001 light the previous round, then cut a .005 light, to win the final. Now that was an impressive 3-round string of lights !

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop

@ LOS 5-5, Robert Cruzen was #4 @ -.791.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop

Robert was RU at this race. He was beat by the awesome Dan Fletcher. Check out some of Dan's lights, .005, .010, .012, .017, .020 ! He keeps showin up at all the big races, plus many of the div races, from coast to coast. He either had lots of frequent flyer miles, or flew on private jets. Don't think a guy could make that many races, traveling by land. He'd stay wore out all the time. And he ran Stock & SS. So, I assume that others got the cars to the tracks, & he just flew in, to do the driving. If he traveled by land to all those races, he's almost super-human, IMO. Maybe some here can give us more insight.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop

@ LOS 5-6, Greg Meyer was #12 @ -.784.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop

@ LOS 1-7, Vic Santos was #9 @ -.956.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop

At the Northern Sports Nats, Bill Rink was #23 @ -.891, in a 99 car field.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop

@ LOS 7-6, Carroll was #1 @ - 1.033. Leo was #7 @ -.796.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop

@ LOS 4-6, Robert Cruzen was #8 @ -.681. Leo was #11 @ -.625. Must have been some really bad air and/or track conditions that day. Some of the reg SS guys couldn't even run their index.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop

Robert got a 3rd place finish.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop

At the Pacific Sports Nats, Don K. was #5 @ -.976. Robert was #6 @ -.949. Leo was #17 @ -.840.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop

At the Toyota Nats, Don K. was #6 @ -.972. Robert was #8 @ -.959. Leo was #22 @ -.862. Carroll was #26 @ -.834. Peter was #27 @ -.830. John Angeles was #67. Art was #88.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop

John made it to round 3, Carroll to E-4 & Peter to E-5.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop

@ LOS 7-7, Don K. was #3 @ -.977. Robert was #7 @ -.939. Leo was #50. Keri was #54.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop

Robert made it to round 5.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop

At the Pomona Finals. Robert was #6 @ -.904. Leo was #15 @ -.852. Peter was #39. Keri was #43. Art was #55.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop

In 2013, while Robert & Don K. were running strong on the West coast, Vic Santos was running strong on the East coast. And, I just noticed a pic of the car from 2002. It has Santos & Ribeiro on the side, & Dean Ribeiro on the window. I suppose that means that Dean drove the car for a while. I've seen his name on several of the DRC lists. I knew Dave raced Pontiacs. Just never made the connection between Dean & Vic. So, after I get caught up thru 2019, I'll go back & see if I can find some results for the car, when Dean was driving.

oldskool · 01-18-2020, 09:56 PM

2014

At the Winter Nats, Leo was #13 @ -.855. Peter was #28 @ -.728. Keri was #45. Joel was #49. Art was #52.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop

At the Carquest Nats, Don K. was #4 @ -.946. Leo was #17 @ -.792. Peter was #36. Robert must have had problems, since he was #52.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop

@ LOS 7-1, Don K. was #3 @ -.909. Robert was #15 @ -.792. Leo was #24 @ -.727. Peter was #27.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop

It was an all-Pontiac powered final, with Peter over Robert. Leo made it to E-4.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop

@ LOS 7-2, Don K. was #1 @ -.992. Robert was #19, Peter #20, Leo #22, Keri #40, 7 Art #43.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop

Art made the semi.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop

At the Vegas Summit Nats, Don K. was #4 @ -.991. Robert was #13 @ -.918. Leo was #26 @ -.770. Peter was #30, Art #45, & Keri #47.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop

@ LOS 1-1, Wilbert Thornton was #21 @ -.688. He had the only Pontiac I saw on the list.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop

@ LOS 2-4, Peter Was #32, & won the race !

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop

@ LOS 5-1, Carroll was #4 @ -.937.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop

@ LOS 1-2, Peter picked up another win !

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop

@ LOS 5-3, Carroll was #1 @ - 1.006.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop

He made the semi, but left one bulb too soon.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop

@ LOS 7-3, Robert was #3 @ -.850.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop

At the New England Nats, Vic Santos was #2 @ -.995. Peter was #16.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop

@ LOS 6-4, Carroll was #1 @ -.918, & got RU.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop

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That gets us thru June. There were several races where Pontiacs were in the middle or toward the bottom of the Q-list, which I didn't include, because the Pontiacs didn't make it to the later rounds.

oldskool · 01-19-2020, 12:14 AM

2014 contd.

@ LOS 6-5, Leo was #10, @ -.842.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop

At the Mile-High Nats, Carroll was #1 @ -.863.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop

@ LOS 1-4, Vic Santos was #1 @ - 1.087, and got a #3 finish.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop

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@ LOS 7-4, Robert was #6 @ -.888. Leo was #15 @ -.751.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop

Leo got a 3rd place finish, & Robert made the 4th round.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop

@ LOS 3-4, I'll mention 2 names that were in #56 & #66 positions. They are Johnny Duncan & Bill Eadelis.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop

Johnny made it to round 3, & Bill to E-2.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop

At the Sonoma Nats, Robert was #3 @ -.887, & made it to round 4.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop

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@ LOS 5-4, Carroll was #9 @ -.687.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop

At the Lucas Oil Nats, Greg Meyer was #6 @ -.861.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop

@ LOS 5-5, Carroll was #7 @ -.750. Robert was #9 @ -.740.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop

@ LOS 1-7, Peter was #33, & got RU.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop

@ LOS 5-6, Carroll was #9 @ -.974, and made it to the semi.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop

At the Northern Sports Nats, Bill Rink was #27 @ -.852.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop

@ LOS 7-5, Carroll was #2 @ -.882. Leo was #6.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop

Carroll made the semi.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop

At the Vegas Sports Nats, Leo was #11 @ -.780. Peter was #20.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop

At the Toyota Nats, Don K. was #18 @ -.943. Carroll was #33 @ -.874. Leo was #43. Peter was #47. Keri was #79.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop

@ LOS 7-7, Don K. was #9 @ -.990. Carroll was #18 @ -.911. Peter was #30 @ -.841. Leo was #61. Art was #71. Keri was #78.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop

At the Pomona Finals, Leo was #35 @ -.753. Peter was #41, Art was #53, Keri was #57.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop

oldskool · 01-19-2020, 03:57 AM

So, from the results I've seen, here is a list, in no particular order, of the drivers of the quickest V8 Pontiac powered Super Stock cars of 2014. Some run low 9's. Some run 10's. The slower cars have run well against their index.

(1) Don Kennedy

(2) Robert Cruzen

(3) Leo Glasbrenner

(4) Peter Biondo

(5) Vic Santos

(6) Greg Meyer

(7) Carroll Warling

[8) Bill Rink

(9) Keri Angeles Pari.

(10) J.B. Clegg

I suppose, as of today, the last 2 names are the only ones on this list associated with 9 sec non-GT Pontiacs. Keri has run the '69 RAIV Bird well into the 9's. And, as we'll see from results from later years, J.B. has driven both a '73 & '74 SD455 Bird well into the 9's.

Because there are several Pontiac Stockers that have run real low 10's, it shouldn't be big problem, at all, to get those cars into the 9's, if taking advantage of the SS rules. I suppose there just hasn't been anybody intersted in doing that, yet. I'd love to see some D-port head, non-GT Pontiacs into the 9's. There are several Pontiac guys around nowadays, who could pull it off. All that's needed is somebody with the money, who wants to do it. Just guessing that several Pontiac guys would be happy to help with such a project. So, somebody do it, already ! If I win one of the BIG lotteries, I'll put up the money for the build, myself.

I realize that all these numbers mean very little, to nothing, to most non-Pontiac folks, since there are other brands that will run quicker, in almost any class a Pontiac can run in. But, because Pontiacs make up such a very small percentage of SS cars, to me, that makes it real special when I see a Pontiac that gets a class win over other brands, or sets a nat record in classes dominated by Chevy, or other brands.

I suppose it's part minority brand pride, and part just because I've always loved Pontiacs.

01-17-2020, 06:00 PM	#1
oldskool VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: The Land of Bayous, Boudin & Crawfish Posts: 1,668 Likes: 223 Liked 747 Times in 362 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers 2012 At Pomona, Ryan Schole was #26 @ -.718. Peter was #38 @ -.621. Art was #48 @ -.514. Joel was #52. Keri was #55. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop Peter broke, in round 6, & had to settle for a 3rd place finish. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop At the AZ Nats, Peter was #17 @ -.764. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop Peter got treed in the semi & had to settle for another 3rd place finish. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop OK, since we'll now have results from the Lucas Oil Series div races, I'll try to list them with there div number, followed by a dash, followed by the season sequence number. So, this race will be called the LOS 7-1 race, since it is in div 7 & is the 1st LOS race of the season. In case of rainouts, sometimes the sequence numbers may not be in the correct order. This shorter race ID will require less time & space. So @ LOS 7-1, Don K. was #3 @ -.925. Ryan was #28 @ -.605. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop @ LOS 7-2, Don K. was #2 @ -.949. Ryan was #32 @ -.608. Robert was #43, & Art was #45. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop @ LOS 4-1, J.B. was #22 @ -.682. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop At the Cajun Sports Nats, J.B. was #61 @ -.636. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop @ LOS 7-3, Robert was #2 @ - 1.001. Don K. was #6 @ -.905. Leo Glasbrenner was #14 @ -.826. Don't know if Leo had Pontiac power at that time, or not. Who knows ? Ryan was #34 @ -.600. Art was #61. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop Don K. won that race ! https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop At the Spring Vegas race, Don K. was #3 @ -.947. Ryan was #29 @ -.697. Art was #54. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop At the 4-wide Nats, Peter was #63. It seems that for some races, Peter uses the strategy of his rival, Dan Fletcher, by purposely qualifying low. I know this is a Pontiac thread, But since I've been lookin up race results, Dan Fletcher is the name that has popped up, most often, in the later rounds of races. I assume he has an awesome list of racing accomplishments. I'm sure that everybody who has kept up with Stock/SS racing knows about Dan. But, I'm just getting a look at some of what he did. So, at some point, I'll probably do some research & get all the info on his racing career. But, that's for another time, & perhaps another thread. This thread is for Pontiac powered SS cars. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop Gonna start skipping a lot of races, unless there is a Pontiac that qualifies well, or one that makes it to at least the semi. @ LOS 3-1, Bill Rink was #6 @ -.980. Stacy was #12 @ -.955. Monte was #42 @ -.800. Greg was #44 @ -.793. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop @ LOS 5-1, Robert was #5 @ -.782. Bill was #12 @ -.668. Carroll was #14 @ -.651. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop Robert was beaten by his son, in the semi. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop @ LOS 3-2, Greg was #39 @ -.724. Johnny Duncan was #66. But the reason I'm including this Q-list is because of the next 2 cars. The 1st is a 1970 GTO, driven by Bill Eadelis. How long has it been since ya'll saw a '70 GTO SS car, before this one ? The other car is what I think is an SD455 powered '73 auto trans SS Bird, driven by Russ Abrams. I know that Bob Michael & Don K. ran one. Who has run one, in this century ? Maybe there is one, or some, that I don't know about. Those SD455 parts are so rare & expensive now, it's not likely that anybody else will try to build a SD455 powered SS car, in the future. Don't know if any of the GT guys will run one in the future, or not. I suppose that for many guys with enuff money to do this, a rare expensive set of head cores is not a problem. So, maybe we WILL continue to see a few SD455 headed engines on the track. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop @ LOS 1-2, Vic Santos was#12 @ -.851. Don K. was #14 @ -.822. Sal P. was #61. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop Well, that gets us thru May of 2012. Again, if any of ya'll know of Pontiac wins at other races during the season, please post that info. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by oldskool; 01-17-2020 at 08:02 PM.

01-17-2020, 08:45 PM	#2
oldskool VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: The Land of Bayous, Boudin & Crawfish Posts: 1,668 Likes: 223 Liked 747 Times in 362 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers 2012 contd. At Englishtown, Don K. was #7 @ -.981. Peter was #21 @ -.869. Sal P. was #74. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop Peter & Don K. both got their class win. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop @ LOS 5-3, Carroll Warling was #1 @ - 1.063. Don K. was #2 @ -.974. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop Don K. made it to the semi. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop At Bristol, Peter was #6 & won the race ! https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop @ LOS 1-3, Vic Santos was #1 @ -.899. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop @ LOS 1-4, Vic was again #1, this time @ - 1.082. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop @ LOS 7-5, Don K. was #3 @ -.914. Keri was #19. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop @ LOS 5-4, Carroll was #3 @ -.991. Bill Rink was #9 @ -.894. Greg Meyer was #28. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop @ LOS 5-6, Robert Cruzen was #3 @ -.990. Greg was #21 @ -.845. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop At the Northern Sports Nats, Bill Rink was #17 @ -.938. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop At the Auto-Plus Nats, Sal P. was #31 @ -.634. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop At Top Sportsman Pacific Sports Nats, Robert Cruzen was #1 @ - 1.002. Don K. was #5 @ -.930. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop At the Big O Tires Nats, Don K. was #8 @ -.958. Robert was #10 @ -.937. Other Pontiacs on the list were Ryan Schloe #54, J.B. #60, Keri #66, & Art #76. Leo Glasbrenner was on the list. But, his car was listed as having a 350 engine. Since he's raced Pontiac powered cars, I'd assumed that his 4th gen Bird GT car had Pontiac power. But, now I'm more inclined to believe that the 350 mentioned was probably a Chevy 350, that was in the car when he bought it. But, that is mere speculation on my part. If anybody here knows for sure what brand of 350 was in his GT car, at this race, please post that info. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop @ LOS 7-6, Don K. was #5 @ -.974. Robert was #8 @ -.928. Ryan was #47, Keri #48, & J.B. #50. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop At the Pomona Finals, Robert was #9 @ -.888. Ryan was #35 @ -.612. Keri was #37 @ -.597.Joel was #48 @ -.472. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop That wraps up 2012, with what I found. Looks like Don K. raced from coast to coast that year. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by oldskool; 01-18-2020 at 03:45 AM.

01-18-2020, 04:38 AM	#3
oldskool VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: The Land of Bayous, Boudin & Crawfish Posts: 1,668 Likes: 223 Liked 747 Times in 362 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers 2013 At the Winter Nats, Robert was #3 @ -.959. Leo was #28 @ -.631. He'd moved up several classes, so I assume he'd swapped over to Pontiac power. Joel, Art, & Keri were also on the list. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop At the AZ Nats, Robert was #4 @ -.935. Don K. was #5 @ .928. Leo was #32 @ -.624. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop @ LOS 7-1, Robert was #1 @ - 1.032. Don K. was #12 @ -.869. Leo was #38 @ -.669. Joel was #49. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop @ LOS 7-2, Robert was #1 @ -.936. Don K. was #6 @ -.821. Leo Was #30 @ -.651. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop Robert lost in the semi, when his opponent cut a .001 light. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop @ LOS 2-2, Peter was #17 @ -.912, & won the race ! https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop At the Gators, Peter was #47 @ -.712. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop @ LOS 7-3, Don K. was #2 @ -.947. Robert was #3 @ -.940. Leo was #27, Ryan #36, & Keri #53. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop Robert won this one ! https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop At the Vegas Summit Nats, Don K. was #1 @ -.951, Robert was #2 @ -.947. That's pretty cool. Pontiac power was #1 & #2 at a nat event ! Leo was #34 @ -.688. Keri was #61. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop A the 4-Wide Nats, Peter was #26 & got RU. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop @ LOS 5-1 Carroll was #4 @ -.941 & got 3rd. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop That's about it thru May. That year there were very few Pontiac SS cars running in the East. And none in the Northwest. Can't think of any in div 2 or 6 that year. I think J.B. had the only one in div 4. Carroll may have had the only one in div 5. Hey, I could be wrong, again. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by oldskool; 01-18-2020 at 06:33 AM.

01-18-2020, 06:26 AM	#4
oldskool VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: The Land of Bayous, Boudin & Crawfish Posts: 1,668 Likes: 223 Liked 747 Times in 362 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers 2013 contd. @ LOS 3-3, Bill Rink was #15 @ -.914. Greg Meyer was #26 @ -.825. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop @ LOS 7-4, Leo was #2 @ -.773. Robert Cruzen was #4 @ -.669. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop Leo got RU. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop @ LOS 1-3, Vic Santos was #6 @ -.892, in a '78 Bird, running GT/IA. I was only familiar with his 3rd gen Bird GT car. So, who knows what other Pontiacs Vic has raced ? https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop Vic went a tick too quick, in the semi. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop @ LOS 5-3, Carroll was #1 @ -.978. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop At the New England Nats, Vic Santos was #3 @ - 1.024. Peter was #26 @ -.646. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop @ LOS 3-4, Bill Rink was #10 @ -.860. Greg Meyer was #15 @ -.776. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop At the Mile-High Nats, Carroll was #3 @ -.926, in GT/MA. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop @ LOS 1-4, Vic Santos was #3 @ -.842. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop At the Lucas Oil Nats, Greg Meyer was #11 @ -.753. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop Greg had to settle for 3rd place at this race, because his semifinal opponent cut a perfect .000 light. And check this out. That guy had cut a .001 light the previous round, then cut a .005 light, to win the final. Now that was an impressive 3-round string of lights ! https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop @ LOS 5-5, Robert Cruzen was #4 @ -.791. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop Robert was RU at this race. He was beat by the awesome Dan Fletcher. Check out some of Dan's lights, .005, .010, .012, .017, .020 ! He keeps showin up at all the big races, plus many of the div races, from coast to coast. He either had lots of frequent flyer miles, or flew on private jets. Don't think a guy could make that many races, traveling by land. He'd stay wore out all the time. And he ran Stock & SS. So, I assume that others got the cars to the tracks, & he just flew in, to do the driving. If he traveled by land to all those races, he's almost super-human, IMO. Maybe some here can give us more insight. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop @ LOS 5-6, Greg Meyer was #12 @ -.784. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop @ LOS 1-7, Vic Santos was #9 @ -.956. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop At the Northern Sports Nats, Bill Rink was #23 @ -.891, in a 99 car field. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop @ LOS 7-6, Carroll was #1 @ - 1.033. Leo was #7 @ -.796. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop @ LOS 4-6, Robert Cruzen was #8 @ -.681. Leo was #11 @ -.625. Must have been some really bad air and/or track conditions that day. Some of the reg SS guys couldn't even run their index. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop Robert got a 3rd place finish. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop At the Pacific Sports Nats, Don K. was #5 @ -.976. Robert was #6 @ -.949. Leo was #17 @ -.840. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop At the Toyota Nats, Don K. was #6 @ -.972. Robert was #8 @ -.959. Leo was #22 @ -.862. Carroll was #26 @ -.834. Peter was #27 @ -.830. John Angeles was #67. Art was #88. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop John made it to round 3, Carroll to E-4 & Peter to E-5. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop @ LOS 7-7, Don K. was #3 @ -.977. Robert was #7 @ -.939. Leo was #50. Keri was #54. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop Robert made it to round 5. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop At the Pomona Finals. Robert was #6 @ -.904. Leo was #15 @ -.852. Peter was #39. Keri was #43. Art was #55. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop In 2013, while Robert & Don K. were running strong on the West coast, Vic Santos was running strong on the East coast. And, I just noticed a pic of the car from 2002. It has Santos & Ribeiro on the side, & Dean Ribeiro on the window. I suppose that means that Dean drove the car for a while. I've seen his name on several of the DRC lists. I knew Dave raced Pontiacs. Just never made the connection between Dean & Vic. So, after I get caught up thru 2019, I'll go back & see if I can find some results for the car, when Dean was driving. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by oldskool; 01-18-2020 at 08:47 PM.

01-18-2020, 09:56 PM	#5
oldskool VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: The Land of Bayous, Boudin & Crawfish Posts: 1,668 Likes: 223 Liked 747 Times in 362 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers 2014 At the Winter Nats, Leo was #13 @ -.855. Peter was #28 @ -.728. Keri was #45. Joel was #49. Art was #52. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop At the Carquest Nats, Don K. was #4 @ -.946. Leo was #17 @ -.792. Peter was #36. Robert must have had problems, since he was #52. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop @ LOS 7-1, Don K. was #3 @ -.909. Robert was #15 @ -.792. Leo was #24 @ -.727. Peter was #27. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop It was an all-Pontiac powered final, with Peter over Robert. Leo made it to E-4. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop @ LOS 7-2, Don K. was #1 @ -.992. Robert was #19, Peter #20, Leo #22, Keri #40, 7 Art #43. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop Art made the semi. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop At the Vegas Summit Nats, Don K. was #4 @ -.991. Robert was #13 @ -.918. Leo was #26 @ -.770. Peter was #30, Art #45, & Keri #47. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop @ LOS 1-1, Wilbert Thornton was #21 @ -.688. He had the only Pontiac I saw on the list. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop @ LOS 2-4, Peter Was #32, & won the race ! https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop @ LOS 5-1, Carroll was #4 @ -.937. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop @ LOS 1-2, Peter picked up another win ! https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop @ LOS 5-3, Carroll was #1 @ - 1.006. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop He made the semi, but left one bulb too soon. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop @ LOS 7-3, Robert was #3 @ -.850. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop At the New England Nats, Vic Santos was #2 @ -.995. Peter was #16. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop @ LOS 6-4, Carroll was #1 @ -.918, & got RU. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop That gets us thru June. There were several races where Pontiacs were in the middle or toward the bottom of the Q-list, which I didn't include, because the Pontiacs didn't make it to the later rounds. Last edited by oldskool; 01-19-2020 at 12:14 AM.

01-19-2020, 12:14 AM	#6
oldskool VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: The Land of Bayous, Boudin & Crawfish Posts: 1,668 Likes: 223 Liked 747 Times in 362 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers 2014 contd. @ LOS 6-5, Leo was #10, @ -.842. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop At the Mile-High Nats, Carroll was #1 @ -.863. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop @ LOS 1-4, Vic Santos was #1 @ - 1.087, and got a #3 finish. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop @ LOS 7-4, Robert was #6 @ -.888. Leo was #15 @ -.751. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop Leo got a 3rd place finish, & Robert made the 4th round. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop @ LOS 3-4, I'll mention 2 names that were in #56 & #66 positions. They are Johnny Duncan & Bill Eadelis. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop Johnny made it to round 3, & Bill to E-2. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop At the Sonoma Nats, Robert was #3 @ -.887, & made it to round 4. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop @ LOS 5-4, Carroll was #9 @ -.687. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop At the Lucas Oil Nats, Greg Meyer was #6 @ -.861. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop @ LOS 5-5, Carroll was #7 @ -.750. Robert was #9 @ -.740. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop @ LOS 1-7, Peter was #33, & got RU. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop @ LOS 5-6, Carroll was #9 @ -.974, and made it to the semi. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop At the Northern Sports Nats, Bill Rink was #27 @ -.852. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop @ LOS 7-5, Carroll was #2 @ -.882. Leo was #6. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop Carroll made the semi. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop At the Vegas Sports Nats, Leo was #11 @ -.780. Peter was #20. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop At the Toyota Nats, Don K. was #18 @ -.943. Carroll was #33 @ -.874. Leo was #43. Peter was #47. Keri was #79. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop @ LOS 7-7, Don K. was #9 @ -.990. Carroll was #18 @ -.911. Peter was #30 @ -.841. Leo was #61. Art was #71. Keri was #78. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop At the Pomona Finals, Leo was #35 @ -.753. Peter was #41, Art was #53, Keri was #57. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop Last edited by oldskool; 01-19-2020 at 02:57 AM.

01-19-2020, 03:57 AM	#7
oldskool VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: The Land of Bayous, Boudin & Crawfish Posts: 1,668 Likes: 223 Liked 747 Times in 362 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers So, from the results I've seen, here is a list, in no particular order, of the drivers of the quickest V8 Pontiac powered Super Stock cars of 2014. Some run low 9's. Some run 10's. The slower cars have run well against their index. (1) Don Kennedy (2) Robert Cruzen (3) Leo Glasbrenner (4) Peter Biondo (5) Vic Santos (6) Greg Meyer (7) Carroll Warling [8) Bill Rink (9) Keri Angeles Pari. (10) J.B. Clegg I suppose, as of today, the last 2 names are the only ones on this list associated with 9 sec non-GT Pontiacs. Keri has run the '69 RAIV Bird well into the 9's. And, as we'll see from results from later years, J.B. has driven both a '73 & '74 SD455 Bird well into the 9's. Because there are several Pontiac Stockers that have run real low 10's, it shouldn't be big problem, at all, to get those cars into the 9's, if taking advantage of the SS rules. I suppose there just hasn't been anybody intersted in doing that, yet. I'd love to see some D-port head, non-GT Pontiacs into the 9's. There are several Pontiac guys around nowadays, who could pull it off. All that's needed is somebody with the money, who wants to do it. Just guessing that several Pontiac guys would be happy to help with such a project. So, somebody do it, already ! If I win one of the BIG lotteries, I'll put up the money for the build, myself. I realize that all these numbers mean very little, to nothing, to most non-Pontiac folks, since there are other brands that will run quicker, in almost any class a Pontiac can run in. But, because Pontiacs make up such a very small percentage of SS cars, to me, that makes it real special when I see a Pontiac that gets a class win over other brands, or sets a nat record in classes dominated by Chevy, or other brands. I suppose it's part minority brand pride, and part just because I've always loved Pontiacs. Last edited by oldskool; 01-19-2020 at 04:12 AM.