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Old 02-25-2020, 11:41 AM   #1
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Thanks for that info Bob !
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Old 03-01-2020, 12:42 AM   #2
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Brad Burton is entered in the div 7 race @ Tucson, with the Burton GT/HA Pontiac powered '91 Bird. He is #18 on the Q-list @.854 under.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...er=30#indextop
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Old 03-01-2020, 07:46 AM   #3
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From Belle Rose LODRS Comp Qualifying:
13 4483 CC/A John Clegg, Victoria TX, '88 Pontiac 7.029 7.55 -0.521
Pontiac powered?
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Old 03-01-2020, 09:17 AM   #4
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From Belle Rose LODRS Comp Qualifying:
13 4483 CC/A John Clegg, Victoria TX, '88 Pontiac 7.029 7.55 -0.521
Pontiac powered?
No. Don't think so. There are some videos of John's Comp car, on the Mission Garage site. Lots of pics & videos of the Clegg cars, from years past.

http://missiongarage.com/photos.htm

He switched over from Pontiac power many years ago. I think he had quit using Pontiac power, back when he still raced the '73 SD455 Bird, he'd bought new. Not sure exactly what year he switched.

But I'm pretty sure this 3rd gen never had Pontiac power. Obviously I could be wrong. All that info may be on their Mission Garage site.

http://missiongarage.com/

John's son J.B., is also listed as driving an '88 Bird in SS. Assume it's the same car John drove for years. At one time, they claimed it was the quickest SS car. Just out of curiosity, what are the rules for the SS/AS class.

https://www.dragzine.com/news/john-c...er-stock-pass/

I know that J.B has raced their '73 & '74 Birds with Pontiac power, in recent years. But, if they've had Pontiac power in a 3rd gen, I'm not aware of it. Hope I'm wrong. But, it seems that lots of guys are always wanting something that runs a little quicker than the car they have.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r=100#indextop

There are pics of the '73 Bird with SS/AM on it. I assume this was not with Pontiac power. But again, could be wrong.

http://missiongarage.com/team.htm

The quickest I know of that they ran with Pontiac power was mid 9's, in SS/I, IIRC.
Here's a 9.62 in SS/I. with the '74 T/A.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...er=30#indextop

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Old 03-01-2020, 11:47 PM   #5
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Had to add this. Brad Burton just won SS, at the div 7 race, in Tucson, with the Burton Pontiac powered '91 GT Bird !

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...er=30#indextop
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OK, I got another dummy question for you guys who know what the rules were for AHRA & IHRA.

I seem to remember several differences, from NHRA rules.

I have some pics of the 1970 Knafel GTO, nat record holder. It appears to be running in the 2-FA or FA-2 class. So, exactly what is that ? Is it a Stock class ? SS ?

We attended the World Nats race in Amarillo, in '76, IIRC. We saw a car there named "Packin Poncho". It was a '69 GTO, with a hood scoop. Looks like it ran in the SS3 class. Can someone here clarify the AHRA/IHRA rules, for Stock/SS ?
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OK, I got another dummy question for you guys who know what the rules were for AHRA & IHRA.

I seem to remember several differences, from NHRA rules.

I have some pics of the 1970 Knafel GTO, nat record holder. It appears to be running in the 2-FA or FA-2 class. So, exactly what is that ? Is it a Stock class ? SS ?

We attended the World Nats race in Amarillo, in '76, IIRC. We saw a car there named "Packin Poncho". It was a '69 GTO, with a hood scoop. Looks like it ran in the SS3 class. Can someone here clarify the AHRA/IHRA rules, for Stock/SS ?
The Knafel GTO was probably running the AHRA Formula Stock class. AHRA considered this a Stock class but was more like Super Stock, hood scoops, aftermarket intakes, any size tire that would fit in the stock wheel well, etc. Formula 1 was for cars with multiple carbs, Formula 2 was for four barrel cars, and Formula 3 was for 2 barrel cars.

IHRA was Super Stock, I believe they were based on the same formula as AHRA Formula stock but had also had a SS/4 class that was for NHRA legal cars.
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Old 06-25-2020, 09:17 AM   #8
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OK, I got another dummy question for you guys who know what the rules were for AHRA & IHRA.

I seem to remember several differences, from NHRA rules.

I have some pics of the 1970 Knafel GTO, nat record holder. It appears to be running in the 2-FA or FA-2 class. So, exactly what is that ? Is it a Stock class ? SS ?

We attended the World Nats race in Amarillo, in '76, IIRC. We saw a car there named "Packin Poncho". It was a '69 GTO, with a hood scoop. Looks like it ran in the SS3 class. Can someone here clarify the AHRA/IHRA rules, for Stock/SS ?
Is there any info on the black 69?
Does it still exist?
My favorite car of all time 1969 GTO. Need to get one again someday.
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