Covid 19. Over reaction ?

jwsamuel · 04-09-2020, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom Moock

RJ My wife has been taking Hydroxychloroquine for 20 years, with no problem, She has Rheumatoid Arthritis

People like your wife and people who have lupus are now facing shortages of the medication they need.

It is more than people taking drugs that probably don't work. This also affects others who need those drugs for other proven treatments.

jmcarter · 04-09-2020, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by jwsamuel

People like your wife and people who have lupus are now facing shortages of the medication they need.

It is more than people taking drugs that probably don't work. This also affects others who need those drugs for other proven treatments.

My son suffers from CNS Lupus and faces shortages for not only this but for immunotherapy drugs because of people grasping for straws in most cases. To some degree I fault doctors for prescribing drugs based on theory rather than proven therapeutic values. To a large degree the overuse of penicillin created more problems than solutions, guess we can’t learn from history. In the immortal words of Larry Morgan “you can’t fix stupid”.

BKSG1198 · 04-09-2020, 08:31 AM

Maybe it is an over-reaction on the part of higher powers then us but, you look at it this way, if nothing was done and millions of people died from this thing, the thread would read “why are we not doing anything about Covid-19??”. It’s a tough position some people are in (I don’t agree with all political thought process sometimes especially in my home state of NJ but, we have ALOT of idiots living here...and they have come out in masses during the quarantine...lol) but, it’s like going to the track for a Divisional, you know it’s going to rain on Sunday...it’s 100% chance of rain on every channel you watch but, you still go knowing that Sunday is probably a wash. The director says ok we’re giving everyone a time run Saturday morning, setting the fields and then try to finish what we can that night. Maybe you get a round or two in but, you don’t get the race done. So now you have guys in the pits going “WTH did we need a time run this morning for, we could have finished this race today, this is BS, while you have others going, man I’m on kill with that time run this morning, that set me right up”. It’s not a win / win situation for anyone unless you wake up at the track on Sunday to no rain or it moved South or North overnight and missed the track leaving a window. Either way you have people pointing the finger at other people (the weather man, division directors, etc)

I’m sure NHRA and the Divisions were not thrilled about having to re-write and cancel events that they would have made $$$ on. I know I wasn’t thrilled about having to re-write my schedule for the .90 series but, you have to make sure people will be safe when we go back to racing. To go back to what James said about Divisonals, maybe not in D2 but, I know in D1 the tracks that have Alky Cars they try to promote crowds to help cover the cost they have to payout to the Alky fields. Like at New England, they make Saturday Night almost a thrill show with Jet Cars, Wheelstanders, Etc. Maple Grove came back last year with Jet Cars and Fireworks also and the crowds on the spectator side was about 1/2 to 3/5 full. I think other states that haven’t seen much of an outbreak go back to normal quicker then us but, the Northeast will be screwed for a couple of Months because of the mass casualties and the thought process that your state might be ok but, now your letting people in from NY, NJ, PA to come race who might be carrying this virus and not know it. Just think and this is scary to think...The US had 1,100 people die in a day from this virus...Maple Grove has 562 cars for the D1 race last year..take everyone of those drivers and one crew member and wipe them off in one day...not trying to be doom and gloom but, realistic —- that right there is scary!!

SSGT Mustang · 04-09-2020, 03:07 PM

The media flat out lies.

Anybody that denies that fact is too stupid to argue with.

The sad truth is that most people are too lazy to look up what is being fed to them by the media. They turn on the tube or read the paper and take everything as truth.

They don't understand that the media is a business and like all businesses they have to turn a profit. They sell the news. You don't thinks so? Look up the salaries that some of these people are pulling down.

The COVID situation is no different. They are selling fear and people are too lazy to look up and make an effort to understand the data. The data is out there. Not only for COVID but other causes of death.

People die and the media lies. That's the plain truth of it all.

Don't get me started on what politicians will say and do to get their way.

RJ Sledge · 04-09-2020, 05:21 PM

Seems like people are finally coming out from under the Ether that the Media has been spraying....

Well said and without all the drama...

RJ

Bruce Noland · 04-09-2020, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SSGT Mustang

The media flat out lies.

Anybody that denies that fact is too stupid to argue with.

The sad truth is that most people are too lazy to look up what is being fed to them by the media. They turn on the tube or read the paper and take everything as truth.

They don't understand that the media is a business and like all businesses they have to turn a profit. They sell the news. You don't thinks so? Look up the salaries that some of these people are pulling down.

The COVID situation is no different. They are selling fear and people are too lazy to look up and make an effort to understand the data. The data is out there. Not only for COVID but other causes of death.

People die and the media lies. That's the plain truth of it all.

Don't get me started on what politicians will say and do to get their way.

Well, I hate to get you started, but what is the media lying about concerning Covid 19? I would love to see some of your research on the subject.

RJ Sledge · 04-09-2020, 09:45 PM

Bruce I’m not trying to speak for him, but I believe he covered that in his 2d sentence......his words not mine

RJ

Bruce Noland · 04-10-2020, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by RJ Sledge

Bruce I’m not trying to speak for him, but I believe he covered that in his 2d sentence......his words not mine

RJ

RJ, not even close. I want to know specifically which media is lying about Covid 19 and I would also like to see his research. He claims to be looking up what is being fed to us by the media. Let's see what he's "looked up".

Billy Nees · 04-10-2020, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Bruce Noland

RJ, not even close. I want to know specifically which media is lying about Covid 19 and I would also like to see his research. He claims to be looking up what is being fed to us by the media. Let's see what he's "looked up".

I want to know exactly what 3rd party the media is getting its info from.

Pat6868 · 04-10-2020, 09:05 AM

The media is one thing, however, governments and politicians are making it increasingly difficult to believe a damn thing they say.

04-09-2020, 08:31 AM	#3
BKSG1198 VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Vineland, NJ Posts: 2,622 Likes: 95 Liked 1,279 Times in 389 Posts	Re: Covid 19. Over reaction ? Maybe it is an over-reaction on the part of higher powers then us but, you look at it this way, if nothing was done and millions of people died from this thing, the thread would read “why are we not doing anything about Covid-19??”. It’s a tough position some people are in (I don’t agree with all political thought process sometimes especially in my home state of NJ but, we have ALOT of idiots living here...and they have come out in masses during the quarantine...lol) but, it’s like going to the track for a Divisional, you know it’s going to rain on Sunday...it’s 100% chance of rain on every channel you watch but, you still go knowing that Sunday is probably a wash. The director says ok we’re giving everyone a time run Saturday morning, setting the fields and then try to finish what we can that night. Maybe you get a round or two in but, you don’t get the race done. So now you have guys in the pits going “WTH did we need a time run this morning for, we could have finished this race today, this is BS, while you have others going, man I’m on kill with that time run this morning, that set me right up”. It’s not a win / win situation for anyone unless you wake up at the track on Sunday to no rain or it moved South or North overnight and missed the track leaving a window. Either way you have people pointing the finger at other people (the weather man, division directors, etc) I’m sure NHRA and the Divisions were not thrilled about having to re-write and cancel events that they would have made $$$ on. I know I wasn’t thrilled about having to re-write my schedule for the .90 series but, you have to make sure people will be safe when we go back to racing. To go back to what James said about Divisonals, maybe not in D2 but, I know in D1 the tracks that have Alky Cars they try to promote crowds to help cover the cost they have to payout to the Alky fields. Like at New England, they make Saturday Night almost a thrill show with Jet Cars, Wheelstanders, Etc. Maple Grove came back last year with Jet Cars and Fireworks also and the crowds on the spectator side was about 1/2 to 3/5 full. I think other states that haven’t seen much of an outbreak go back to normal quicker then us but, the Northeast will be screwed for a couple of Months because of the mass casualties and the thought process that your state might be ok but, now your letting people in from NY, NJ, PA to come race who might be carrying this virus and not know it. Just think and this is scary to think...The US had 1,100 people die in a day from this virus...Maple Grove has 562 cars for the D1 race last year..take everyone of those drivers and one crew member and wipe them off in one day...not trying to be doom and gloom but, realistic —- that right there is scary!!

04-09-2020, 03:07 PM	#4
SSGT Mustang Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Jersey Posts: 359 Likes: 35 Liked 204 Times in 54 Posts	Re: Covid 19. Over reaction ? The media flat out lies. Anybody that denies that fact is too stupid to argue with. The sad truth is that most people are too lazy to look up what is being fed to them by the media. They turn on the tube or read the paper and take everything as truth. They don't understand that the media is a business and like all businesses they have to turn a profit. They sell the news. You don't thinks so? Look up the salaries that some of these people are pulling down. The COVID situation is no different. They are selling fear and people are too lazy to look up and make an effort to understand the data. The data is out there. Not only for COVID but other causes of death. People die and the media lies. That's the plain truth of it all. Don't get me started on what politicians will say and do to get their way.

04-09-2020, 05:21 PM	#5
RJ Sledge Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 783 Likes: 497 Liked 288 Times in 90 Posts	Re: Covid 19. Over reaction ? Seems like people are finally coming out from under the Ether that the Media has been spraying.... Well said and without all the drama... RJ

04-09-2020, 09:45 PM	#7
RJ Sledge Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 783 Likes: 497 Liked 288 Times in 90 Posts	Re: Covid 19. Over reaction ? Bruce I’m not trying to speak for him, but I believe he covered that in his 2d sentence......his words not mine RJ

04-10-2020, 09:05 AM	#10
Pat6868 Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 102 Likes: 6 Liked 88 Times in 28 Posts	Re: Covid 19. Over reaction ? The media is one thing, however, governments and politicians are making it increasingly difficult to believe a damn thing they say.