C-11

Ryan Horensky · 07-30-2020, 01:53 PM

Has anyone had any issues with C-11 passing fuel check? I buy in sealed 5-gallon containers. Fuel passed fine at the Lebanon Valley Divisional. During the Columbus Divisional, fuel checked fine during qualifying. I had my fuel checked after 4th round of eliminations and I was told it checked good, but it's close to going on the bad side. When I asked what he meant, I was told the fuel is borderline dead. I then took the container to fuel check the next morning and was told it was no good. I then opened a sealed 5-gallon container at fuel check and had that checked. I was told the fuel out of the new sealed container was worse and did not pass. The date on the sealed container and the already open container was March 2020. I have been told the fuel has a 3 year shelf life in the sealed 5-gallon containers. Not sure how much truth there is to this? After scrambling for fuel, I ended up having to put C-25 in the car for the SportsNats. The C-25 was in a plastic jug out of a 55-Gallon drum. The C-25 passed fine. Not sure if anyone else has had similar issues with C-11?

Mike Taylor 3601 · 07-30-2020, 04:19 PM

Only time I have had any issues is if I leave fuel in the cel or plastic jug a weekl..I have had C-11 from 3 year old drum pass fine.. unless I leave in cell or plastic jug a week..
I had some test stale at Columbus too...alot of people in line with me were... I went back and put new I had just took from new drum and was good then..

Lee Valentine · 07-30-2020, 04:25 PM

We had a time when Bryan passed and I failed both filled with the same jug before run.

Jeff Niceswanger · 07-30-2020, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryan Horensky

Has anyone had any issues with C-11 passing fuel check? I buy in sealed 5-gallon containers. Fuel passed fine at the Lebanon Valley Divisional. During the Columbus Divisional, fuel checked fine during qualifying. I had my fuel checked after 4th round of eliminations and I was told it checked good, but it's close to going on the bad side. When I asked what he meant, I was told the fuel is borderline dead. I then took the container to fuel check the next morning and was told it was no good. I then opened a sealed 5-gallon container at fuel check and had that checked. I was told the fuel out of the new sealed container was worse and did not pass. The date on the sealed container and the already open container was March 2020. I have been told the fuel has a 3 year shelf life in the sealed 5-gallon containers. Not sure how much truth there is to this? After scrambling for fuel, I ended up having to put C-25 in the car for the SportsNats. The C-25 was in a plastic jug out of a 55-Gallon drum. The C-25 passed fine. Not sure if anyone else has had similar issues with C-11?

Yep, last year, identical. VP took back 30 gallon from me and replaced it. I was told by Pete(at fuel check in div 3) that C-11 is a problem in hot muggy weather. I'm switching to 12 . Not worth the hassle

REGGIE WINKLES · 07-30-2020, 09:04 PM

No issues with C-11 in 15 years. Always use 5 gallon pails.

GTX JOHN · 07-30-2020, 09:27 PM

We have some borderline at fuel check.....

Always close enough they have warned me to
replace = Not quite bad enough for a hard fail!

Pedigo Perf · 07-31-2020, 07:30 AM

I was told that bad C-11 was why Darrel Goheen got DQ'd at Topeka during eliminations.
He bought his in Kansas.

Signman · 07-31-2020, 09:37 AM

Ryan
Race fuels in general don't like being stored in hot locations like leaving it in the trailer week or more between races. Been there.

As stated it does not store at all in plastic jugs. Been there.

Race fuel does not like large changes in temp store in a cool as possible stable temp like a garage. I store it in my shop or garage, sheds can get really hot.

And this one is unavoidable it really does not like being shaken as in when traveling to and from races. Whether sealed or not.
VP themselves told me 5 gallon cans even if sealed are not 100% only drums are reliable. The crush seal around the spout is not the greatest.

5389stk · 07-31-2020, 01:05 PM

Watch where you buy from. Large distributors buy empty 5 gallon cans and seals and package there own out of underground tanks. You have no idea how old it is. 55 gallon drums are ok.

superdart · 07-31-2020, 01:36 PM

If there battery is low, it doesn’t read correctly

07-30-2020, 01:53 PM	#1
Ryan Horensky Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Sugarloaf,PA Posts: 201 Likes: 19 Liked 109 Times in 18 Posts	C-11 Has anyone had any issues with C-11 passing fuel check? I buy in sealed 5-gallon containers. Fuel passed fine at the Lebanon Valley Divisional. During the Columbus Divisional, fuel checked fine during qualifying. I had my fuel checked after 4th round of eliminations and I was told it checked good, but it's close to going on the bad side. When I asked what he meant, I was told the fuel is borderline dead. I then took the container to fuel check the next morning and was told it was no good. I then opened a sealed 5-gallon container at fuel check and had that checked. I was told the fuel out of the new sealed container was worse and did not pass. The date on the sealed container and the already open container was March 2020. I have been told the fuel has a 3 year shelf life in the sealed 5-gallon containers. Not sure how much truth there is to this? After scrambling for fuel, I ended up having to put C-25 in the car for the SportsNats. The C-25 was in a plastic jug out of a 55-Gallon drum. The C-25 passed fine. Not sure if anyone else has had similar issues with C-11?

07-30-2020, 04:19 PM	#2
Mike Taylor 3601 VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Somerset,Ky Posts: 1,371 Likes: 352 Liked 304 Times in 102 Posts	Re: C-11 Only time I have had any issues is if I leave fuel in the cel or plastic jug a weekl..I have had C-11 from 3 year old drum pass fine.. unless I leave in cell or plastic jug a week.. I had some test stale at Columbus too...alot of people in line with me were... I went back and put new I had just took from new drum and was good then..

07-30-2020, 04:25 PM	#3
Lee Valentine Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Brookfield, CT Posts: 708 Likes: 13 Liked 319 Times in 68 Posts	Re: C-11 We had a time when Bryan passed and I failed both filled with the same jug before run. __________________ Lee Valentine 1661 STK

07-30-2020, 09:04 PM	#5
REGGIE WINKLES Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: St. Augustine, Fla. Posts: 229 Likes: 568 Liked 39 Times in 9 Posts	Re: C-11 No issues with C-11 in 15 years. Always use 5 gallon pails. __________________ Reggie Winkles 2650/Stock

07-30-2020, 09:27 PM	#6
GTX JOHN VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Boulder City, Nevada 89005 Posts: 2,732 Likes: 2,798 Liked 2,479 Times in 697 Posts	Re: C-11 We have some borderline at fuel check..... Always close enough they have warned me to replace = Not quite bad enough for a hard fail! __________________ John Irving 741 Stock 741 Super Stock

07-31-2020, 07:30 AM	#7
Pedigo Perf Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Wichita Ks Posts: 383 Likes: 70 Liked 30 Times in 17 Posts	Re: C-11 I was told that bad C-11 was why Darrel Goheen got DQ'd at Topeka during eliminations. He bought his in Kansas.

07-31-2020, 09:37 AM	#8
Signman Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lower Slower Delaware Posts: 535 Likes: 22 Liked 269 Times in 99 Posts	Re: C-11 Ryan Race fuels in general don't like being stored in hot locations like leaving it in the trailer week or more between races. Been there. As stated it does not store at all in plastic jugs. Been there. Race fuel does not like large changes in temp store in a cool as possible stable temp like a garage. I store it in my shop or garage, sheds can get really hot. And this one is unavoidable it really does not like being shaken as in when traveling to and from races. Whether sealed or not. VP themselves told me 5 gallon cans even if sealed are not 100% only drums are reliable. The crush seal around the spout is not the greatest. __________________ Frank Ferrucci I/SA 1271 "Be Thankful for the Gifts You are Given"

07-31-2020, 01:05 PM	#9
5389stk Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 29 Likes: 0 Liked 72 Times in 6 Posts	Re: C-11 Watch where you buy from. Large distributors buy empty 5 gallon cans and seals and package there own out of underground tanks. You have no idea how old it is. 55 gallon drums are ok.

07-31-2020, 01:36 PM	#10
superdart Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 20 Likes: 0 Liked 65 Times in 7 Posts	Re: C-11 If there battery is low, it doesn’t read correctly