Bandimere shut down

[Eddies66]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Same lame argument , again.."at the time of the adoption" means they were already born when the country was established..Duh

XIV doesn't say they are NATURAL BORN CITIZENS, which is what we're talking about here , as a requirement for POTUS or VPOTUS..(spelled out clearly elsewhere)
Again , duh! ..and another duh for Big Cubes

The constitution does not expressly define “natural born” nor has the Supreme Court ever ruled precisely upon its meaning.

Under the 14th Amendment's Naturalization Clause and the Supreme Court case of United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 US. 649, anyone born on U.S. soil and subject to its jurisdiction is a natural born citizen, regardless of parental citizenship. This type of citizenship is referred to as birthright citizenship.

Go peddle birther BS somewhere else.

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Eddies66

The constitution does not expressly define “natural born” nor has the Supreme Court ever ruled precisely upon its meaning.

Under the 14th Amendment's Naturalization Clause and the Supreme Court case of United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 US. 649, anyone born on U.S. soil and subject to its jurisdiction is a natural born citizen, regardless of parental citizenship. This type of citizenship is referred to as birthright citizenship.

Go peddle birther BS somewhere else.

You know what it means and why the writers put it in there .

So then why are you quoting Wong Kim Ark, when it's a 14th amendment case?

Let me bottom line this and end this theme you hate so much .
Anchor babies are not Natural Born Citizens and can't be President.

Oh wait...Define "birther" for your fans here.

[Eddies66]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

You know what it means and why the writers put it in there .

So then why are you quoting Wong Kim Ark, when it's a 14th amendment case?

Let me bottom line this and end this theme you hate so much .
Anchor babies are not Natural Born Citizens and can't be President.

Oh wait...Define "birther" for your fans here.

120 plus eligibility lawsuits from the 2008, 2012, and 2016 election cycles were dismissed in lower courts due to the challengers' difficulty in showing that they had standing to raise legal objections, which they didn't. Additionally, some experts have suggested that the precise meaning of the natural-born-citizen clause may never be decided by the courts because, in the end, presidential eligibility may be determined to be a non-justiciable political question that can be decided only by Congress rather than by the judicial branch of government. Until that time Mark all you have is opinion that is not based on FACT but on CONSPIRACY THEORY. These theorist i.e. Apaio, Zullo and the ever infamous dentist/lawyer Orly Taitz will again be cast aside by the facts and the law. You used the term "anchor babies", neither Congress nor the President have signed anything addressing this issue, no law, no legal basis to challenge one's citizenship. Birther = Conspiracy theorist


One of the conspiracy theorist finest moments:

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Eddies66

120 plus eligibility lawsuits from the 2008, 2012, and 2016 election cycles were dismissed in lower courts due to the challengers' difficulty in showing that they had standing to raise legal objections, which they didn't. Additionally, some experts have suggested that the precise meaning of the natural-born-citizen clause may never be decided by the courts because, in the end, presidential eligibility may be determined to be a non-justiciable political question that can be decided only by Congress rather than by the judicial branch of government. Until that time Mark all you have is opinion that is not based on FACT but on CONSPIRACY THEORY. These theorist i.e. Apaio, Zullo and the ever infamous dentist/lawyer Orly Taitz will again be cast aside by the facts and the law. You used the term "anchor babies", neither Congress nor the President have signed anything addressing this issue, no law, no legal basis to challenge one's citizenship. Birther = Conspiracy theorist


One of the conspiracy theorist finest moments:


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How many time are you going to be wrong here?

O'Donnell? Talk about crackpots...A new low. I believe she pointed out that BO had a Ct. SSN...That's not theory ..THAT IS FACT

Arpaio and Zullo's four year investigation on three continents PROVED that BO's BC was a composite of his , and 17 items from Johanna A'nees BC, lifted and pasted on his. Proven!.. Not mathematically possible any other way.. This was illustrated by a certified Democrat court document examiner. BO's paper were dirty, which is all I ever said, 12 years ago. Why? Don't know..Don't care
I know this shatters your world view. Just because corrupt Washington establishment did nothing ...these are still the facts, jack. Would you expect corrupt Comey to look at it? You know the answer.
Give it up...In the end , all you have is Google , O'Donnell, and stupid names to deflect from the truth.

[Eddies66]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

How many time are you going to be wrong here?

O'Donnell? Talk about crackpots...A new low. I believe she pointed out that BO had a Ct. SSN...That's not theory ..THAT IS FACT

Arpaio and Zullo's four year investigation on three continents PROVED that BO's BC was a composite of his , and 17 items from Johanna A'nees BC, lifted and pasted on his. Proven!.. Not mathematically possible any other way.. This was illustrated by a certified Democrat court document examiner. BO's paper were dirty, which is all I ever said, 12 years ago. Why? Don't know..Don't care
I know this shatters your world view. Just because corrupt Washington establishment did nothing ...these are still the facts, jack. Would you expect corrupt Comey to look at it? You know the answer.
Give it up...In the end , all you have is Google , O'Donnell, and stupid names to deflect from the truth.

And all you have is “hear-say” and you know how that works in a court of law.

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Eddies66

And all you have is “hear-say” and you know how that works in a court of law.

Not hear -say. It's called well documented evidence.
All one needs is the courage to look at it with an open mind...That leaves you out.

[Eddies66]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Not hear -say. It's called well documented evidence.
All one needs is the courage to look at it with an open mind...That leaves you out.

You know nothing about me. Where is the evidence and why isn't it made public. I will always place the Constitution and the law above opinions...even yours. Harvard and Cornell Law is where I do my "google" research to prove my hypothesis, I don't get my information from Fox News or a transmission shop in the middle of the Arizona Desert. Stay out of the heat and be safe. This discussion has evolved back to the previous President and not the recently selected VP, who by the way was born in Oakland, CA, you have the proof with the birth certificate I provided...of the soil, Mark, of the soil.