First VS Worst red light

Mike Rietow · 08-23-2020, 11:55 PM

Take a rational approach in looking at it. When does a drag race start? Answer, when two cars start the clocks.

It's arbitrary to declare one contestant loser, before the race even starts.

It takes two to have a drag race.

If you make a single it's not a drag race, it's a pass or a lap..

Mike Pearson · 08-24-2020, 08:24 AM

If it came to a vote I would pick the Tru start. Technology has changed over the years and this could be one of the improvements. I don't remember if it would have ever helped me. I doubt it would com in to play that often.

Quo Pro Joe · 08-24-2020, 09:22 AM

Class racing is different than bracket racing in that it is a performance class. Some guy in a fast H/SA could theoretically be giving a handicap to a slow A/SA.If he does and the A/SA redlights,that is too bad.

Jeff Stout · 08-24-2020, 09:43 AM

Last time this topic was hot we took a vote and I think it was 50 50

Race Clean · 08-24-2020, 11:26 AM

Here we go again!
If this now would change I wouldn’t be surprised there will be people in the future that think a close red light isn’t fair either and would like the one with the best package closest to .0000 from both directions should be the winner

I do think there are reasons that it should be some advantage to build a faster Car, If that actually is the case when you sum all things together, well thats my view anyway!

IMHO I think we need to stop asking for changes of any kind for the Eliminator and the Cars.
If NHRA thinks it’s time, fine but no changes should not be driven by a group of Racers

Also if we ever get any spectators to watch us I think it’s confusing enough for them with dial ins, break outs without trowing in Red Lights that comes on up to 5-6 seconds after someone left the starting line.
I also wonder if anyone have statistics about faster or slower Cars actually have more Redlights, I feel like the faster Car have the same amount of reds as slower cars even with todays system though it dont get the chance to go red if the other lane got it first, maybe I'm wrong..

Jack McCarthy · 08-24-2020, 12:00 PM

in a FREE country you are allowed to build whatever you like .... rules been there since day one ???

im a candidate for the most affected guy in nhra history...
but i made my choice 40 years ago

captain

Jeff Stout · 08-24-2020, 12:06 PM

4 bracket races Ive raced in with Truestart I remember 2 races that Truestart reversed the outcome.

oldskool · 08-24-2020, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Stout

Last time this topic was hot we took a vote and I think it was 50 50

From the responses, that sounds about right.

I just looked at last year's 128 car Indy Stock Q-list. I could be off slightly. But I counted 62 cars that ran 10.50 or quicker. That doesn't miss 50/50 by much.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop

So, I'm assuming that the majority of quick guys are against, & the majority of slow guys are for.

And from the tone of several quick guys who are against, they seem to feel that those who are for, should quit class racing & go bracket racing.

And I assume that would include even the slow guys who have flogged the same combo for years, set nat records, & can still run more than 1.2 under, if they had to.

Just a simple observation, from a reader & non-voter.

08-23-2020, 11:55 PM	#1
Mike Rietow Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Posts: 93 Likes: 19 Liked 30 Times in 16 Posts	Re: First VS Worst red light Take a rational approach in looking at it. When does a drag race start? Answer, when two cars start the clocks. It's arbitrary to declare one contestant loser, before the race even starts. It takes two to have a drag race. If you make a single it's not a drag race, it's a pass or a lap.. __________________ 7x S/Pro 'Sunshine" http://ottm.store https://youtu.be/I8QWEaqeFRw

08-24-2020, 08:24 AM	#2
Mike Pearson VIP Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,457 Likes: 620 Liked 1,945 Times in 586 Posts	Re: First VS Worst red light If it came to a vote I would pick the Tru start. Technology has changed over the years and this could be one of the improvements. I don't remember if it would have ever helped me. I doubt it would com in to play that often. __________________ Mike Pearson 2485 SS

08-24-2020, 09:22 AM	#3
Quo Pro Joe Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2019 Posts: 32 Likes: 0 Liked 24 Times in 12 Posts	Re: First VS Worst red light Class racing is different than bracket racing in that it is a performance class. Some guy in a fast H/SA could theoretically be giving a handicap to a slow A/SA.If he does and the A/SA redlights,that is too bad.

08-24-2020, 09:43 AM	#4
Jeff Stout VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: phoenix Posts: 1,489 Likes: 66 Liked 706 Times in 283 Posts	Re: First VS Worst red light Last time this topic was hot we took a vote and I think it was 50 50

08-24-2020, 11:26 AM	#5
Race Clean Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 159 Likes: 18 Liked 129 Times in 53 Posts	Re: First VS Worst red light Here we go again! If this now would change I wouldn’t be surprised there will be people in the future that think a close red light isn’t fair either and would like the one with the best package closest to .0000 from both directions should be the winner I do think there are reasons that it should be some advantage to build a faster Car, If that actually is the case when you sum all things together, well thats my view anyway! IMHO I think we need to stop asking for changes of any kind for the Eliminator and the Cars. If NHRA thinks it’s time, fine but no changes should not be driven by a group of Racers Also if we ever get any spectators to watch us I think it’s confusing enough for them with dial ins, break outs without trowing in Red Lights that comes on up to 5-6 seconds after someone left the starting line. I also wonder if anyone have statistics about faster or slower Cars actually have more Redlights, I feel like the faster Car have the same amount of reds as slower cars even with todays system though it dont get the chance to go red if the other lane got it first, maybe I'm wrong.. __________________ Stop global whining

08-24-2020, 12:00 PM	#6
Jack McCarthy VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: lyndon ky. ... louisville area Posts: 1,322 Likes: 29 Liked 477 Times in 117 Posts	Re: First VS Worst red light in a FREE country you are allowed to build whatever you like .... rules been there since day one ??? im a candidate for the most affected guy in nhra history... but i made my choice 40 years ago captain __________________ Jack McCarthy 3609 STK "the Captain"

08-24-2020, 12:06 PM	#7
Jeff Stout VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: phoenix Posts: 1,489 Likes: 66 Liked 706 Times in 283 Posts	Re: First VS Worst red light 4 bracket races Ive raced in with Truestart I remember 2 races that Truestart reversed the outcome.