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Old 08-26-2020, 12:10 AM   #1
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I can't help but wonder what would've happened if he would've been supporting the other side. Kind of seems like they are messing with 1st amendment rights to me.
There is no First Amendment right to use someone else's property ( i.e. - a business' logo) on anything without their permission.

Likewise, when you are on private property or at a private event, the property owner or event owner can stop you from saying or doing what you want.
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There is no First Amendment right to use someone else's property ( i.e. - a business' logo) on anything without their permission.

Likewise, when you are on private property or at a private event, the property owner or event owner can stop you from saying or doing what you want.
I will agree that it's their party and they make the rules which we are always reminded by NHRA. But it's not a business logo it's a political logo no different than a person putting signs in their front yard. Whether I or anyone else agrees with a person's choice of candidates should be irrevelant they have an opinion. It's a shame that we live in such a butthurt society that we can't respect other people's views or an organization like NHRA or NASCAR are worried about hurting someone's damn feelings!
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I really doubt there are many democrats attending or racing at any NHRA events. Its the democrats that want to eliminate racing and the use of the types of fuels we burn in our race cars. NHRA should be firmly behind the republican party if they have any idea what is good for them. Unfortunately NHRA headquarters is located in the land of fruits and nuts. So who knows where the political views lye. Sad time for our country these days.

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I really doubt there are many democrats attending or racing at any NHRA events. Its the democrats that want to eliminate racing and the use of the types of fuels we burn in our race cars. NHRA should be firmly behind the republican party if they have any idea what is good for them. Unfortunately NHRA headquarters is located in the land of fruits and nuts. So who knows where the political views lye. Sad time for our country these days.

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I am a 73 year old lifelong Democrat, a hardcore fan since the age of 15 who attends 4 to 6 NHRA events every year at both the National and Divisional level, and a Navy veteran who served for 4 years on a nuclear submarine and 2 submarine rescue ships. I am not an environmentalist; if climate change is happening at all, it is happening due to natural causes. There are many Democrats who don't believe in the radical left; I am one of them.
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Well, the NHRA directive is about to be tested. A stock Eliminator car here in BG has Trump/ Pence on both doors in LARGE letters. Also, a prominent super stock racer has 330 TRUMP decals on the way...this is turning into a slippery slope....
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Well, the NHRA directive is about to be tested. A stock Eliminator car here in BG has Trump/ Pence on both doors in LARGE letters. Also, a prominent super stock racer has 330 TRUMP decals on the way...this is turning into a slippery slope....
There goes all the TV time for Stock and Super Stock!
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I am a 73 year old lifelong Democrat, a hardcore fan since the age of 15 who attends 4 to 6 NHRA events every year at both the National and Divisional level, and a Navy veteran who served for 4 years on a nuclear submarine and 2 submarine rescue ships. I am not an environmentalist; if climate change is happening at all, it is happening due to natural causes. There are many Democrats who don't believe in the radical left; I am one of them.
Sounds like you more fit into what most republicans believe. You should think about making a change. Glad you enjoy our sport and support it. I thank you for your service to this great country. You would be welcome at my pit area anytime.
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I am a 73 year old lifelong Democrat, a hardcore fan since the age of 15 who attends 4 to 6 NHRA events every year at both the National and Divisional level, and a Navy veteran who served for 4 years on a nuclear submarine and 2 submarine rescue ships. I am not an environmentalist; if climate change is happening at all, it is happening due to natural causes. There are many Democrats who don't believe in the radical left; I am one of them.
Mr Bill I appreciate your common sense attitude and especially your service but from what I've seen many in the Democratic party have fallen for this pandering for votes and wanting to make everyone's feelings not be hurt. I grew up in a Democrat family and was one most of my life until a few years ago I switched my registration to independent. I don't feel like I left the party, they left me! I've voted the last several years with my heart and who I honestly thought would do the best job. I can appreciate everyone's point of view as I sure you can by reading your post here but too many people these days don't see it that way. Most have lost their sense of humanity and can't have a conversation about politics with someone of a different view point without calling them ignorant or uninformed. It's a sad situation for sure, as Mike said you would be welcome in my pit if we ever cross paths for sure and I promise you would have nothing but a civil conversation and a beer or three!
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Yesterday's rule book amendments included the following. Suppose we'll see how enforcement goes at BG:

The NHRA logo or name may not be used in conjunction with political
candidates.

If a race team legitimately is sponsored by a political candidate then the
candidate’s name and the year of the election may appear on the race vehicle

(but the vehicle will not be prominently featured/emphasized on television or in
other content, per broadcast standards and practices). Decal size will be limited
to 144 square inches on a race vehicle and 48 square inches on a motorcycle.

Location will be limited to the rear quarter panel of a race car, outside for the
driver’s compartment of a dragster and wheelie bar side shields on a motorcycle.
If a matter is deemed by NHRA not to be in the best interests of NHRA and the sport of drag racing, then NHRA will not allow such matter to be displayed or advertised on site or in connection with NHRA in any manner whatsoever. NHRA, in its sole and absolute discretion, may take any action, up to and including disqualification of a driver, for violation of this rule.
By way of illustration and without limitation, online gambling is an activity deemed by NHRA to be not in the best interests of NHRA and the sport of drag racing, and an activity that NHRA will not allow to be displayed or advertised on site at any NHRA event or in connection with NHRA in any manner whatsoever. Websites that allow gaming that is entirely free and for fun may be permitted pursuant to further guidelines that may be requested from NHRA. Violation of any part of any such guideline will be treated as violation of the NHRA Rulebook.
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