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[jwsamuel]

Originally Posted by Randy Wells

I also pay over $1500 a month for that great insurance program called Obama care that really sucks.

There is no insurance program called Obamacare. The ACA - also known as Obamacare -- is just a marketplace in which private insurance companies sell their policies to people who do not get insurance from their employers.

If you are paying a lot of money for a bad policy, that's what the private companies are selling you.

[Randy Wells]

Originally Posted by jwsamuel

There is no insurance program called Obamacare. The ACA - also known as Obamacare -- is just a marketplace in which private insurance companies sell their policies to people who do not get insurance from their employers.

If you are paying a lot of money for a bad policy, that's what the private companies are selling you.

Educate yourself, Lew, I am paying $1500 a month so lazy commies who do not work get there's free, period, you need to wake up. I paid $400 a month for my whole family before the Kenyan and his commie administration got a hold of it, so what you are saying is BS. What you don't think I shopped around, when you make over a certain amount a year you pay out the A** for insurance, you have the VA, I pay for yours.

And I will gladly pay for it, I have worked in socialist countries with socialist health car and have heard horror stories. Go to Blain Washington and ask yourself why they have so many medical centers in a town of a few thousand people. Because the canadians with money come to the states to get MRI's Chemo, and any other life saving medicine they need

Sorry I didn't mean to hit the like button because I thing your full of S

[SStockDart]

I wonder what kind of insurance ALL of these ANTIFA and BLM terrorists have? It would be a shame for them to get turned away for emergency care. As I think about it, I don't think they care.

[jwsamuel]

Originally Posted by SStockDart

It would be a shame for them to get turned away for emergency care.

No one can be turned away at an emergency room. The EMTALA laws require hospitals to provide emergency treatment.

[Randy Wells]

Originally Posted by jwsamuel

No one can be turned away at an emergency room. The EMTALA laws require hospitals to provide emergency treatment.

You still trolling? You need to educate yourself. COME ON MAN.

[Lew Silverman]

Originally Posted by Randy Wells

You still trolling? You need to educate yourself. COME ON MAN.

Got you to "bite", didn't he, Randy?


But on a more serious note, he's not wrong! People can't be turned away from "Community" hospitals if they have an emergency. (Private, FOR PROFIT institutions may not have the same requirements). That was the whole reason for the ACA - make affordable health care available to EVERYONE. People wouldn't have to use the Emergency Room as their primary care facility, hospitals wouldn't have to overcharge patients WITH insurance to make up the non-insured shortfalls (no more $4 band-aids or $20 aspirin) and insurance companies wouldn't be able to dictate what treatment a patient received based on a billing schedule - it would decided by a health care professional and her or his patient. Costs go down for EVERYONE!



Healthcare in this country is all about "profits". Insurance companies (and hospital corporations) have stock holders and CEO's to satisfy, and that takes money. Check the financials on your insurance company to see where YOUR premiums go.



While it's obvious that the phrase "We're in This Together" is misinterpreted by some people, hopefully most of us will come out of this - eventually.

[SStockDart]

Lew, my whole point about going to the emergency room was intended to refer to a family of 20 some, and no one has a documented job. How do they pay for medical treatment? They don't....... how is that fair???? I am totally disabled with cancer from agent orange, so this example is not me, but someone near to my family.
She is a nurse at urgent care and he is a private home builder. They gross between $200 and 220,000. Obamacare cost is around $1,600 per month. They pay in an estimated $36,000 in fed taxes, plus all the local taxes. They pay into Social Security. They both work their asses of to provide for and raise their family with braces and educational costs.
So, how is this fair? One family of 20 some, has no one working, free housing, free food, cash to buy drugs and cars, and pays or does absolutely nothing for health care, or attempts to improve social standing. While the other family works hard to pay their way and set good examples.

[jwsamuel]

Originally Posted by Lew Silverman

(Private, FOR PROFIT institutions may not have the same requirements).

Actually, for profit hospitals are no different. If a hospital has an ER, it is subject to EMTALA. I spent 15 years working for one of the largest for-profit healthcare corporations in the country, and another two years working for a smaller for-profit.

What a lot of people don't realize is that they have been paying for healthcare for uninsured people for decades. When hospitals are not paid for the care they provide to uninsured people, the hospitals make up that money in three ways. 1) The cost of that care is added to the cost of care for people with insurance. 2) Hospitals get reimbursed by states for that care with tax dollars, and 3) For-profit hospitals deduct the cost of unreimbursed care in their corporate tax returns.

At one of our hospitals in South Carolina, about 40% of bills were not paid prior to the ACA. After the ACA went into effect, that number dropped to 10-12%.

[BRETV]

I have 4 kids, 6 total in my family, I paid $523 a month for 10 years for my whole family's health care insurance. Obama passes his BS health care plan and suddenly the next month my insurance almost doubles then a couple months later it tripled, then for NO reason they drop my healthcare completely. I was even penalized and fined the next year when I did my taxes cause I didn't have health ins. the whole 12 months, it took me a couple months to find some. Try finding health ins. now for a family of 6 that's even reasonable, let alone affordable, another brilliant Obama idea,to fine people who don't have it. ALL US WORKING people pay for all the NON working welfare people so they can now have health ins. on our dime. BS





Bret Velde
2003 ??/SA

[SStockDart]

Bret, this was my post originally, so I guess I can get off topic a little. Referring to Obamacare, the guy that was shot by a police officer 7 times in the back is 29 years old and has 6 or 7 children. He has 13 siblings. Do the math on that for healthcare. 23 people, none employed.