1965 US Nationals Stock Winner

DeuceCoupe · 11-11-2020, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by John W. 1711

I saw a photo of the Torino the first year (1970) it ran. It was in E/S, #1726. It is running, what appears to be, 7" slicks. Bud put it in SS pretty quick. I live about 12 miles from Norris Ford.

I just found this link:
http://www.mustangandfords.com/featu...back-in-action

Lots of pictures, old and new.
Bud signed his name so that pretty well settles the spelling!

Old 1971 pictures of the Mustang with SS/E on it sure enough.

This article again says Bud won class at 1970 Indy.
Shows a picture of Bud and the car (Torino).
Looks to me like a FLAT HOOD, but no markings E/S or F/S or G/S.
Maybe with a flat hood (no cold air) it ran in G/S in 1970?
I just cant figure why G/S doesnt show up on the 1970 Indy results sheet, nor does Bud's name. The mystery continues.
(I attached the 1970 Indy results sheet Tom Kaasch posted)

The 428CJ was factored at 340hp for the flat hood, and 360hp for the cold air or shaker hood. That's the only engine I can think of that was factored differently depending on air intake back pre-1972 anyway.

I wonder if the 429SCJ was factored the same - lower for the flat hood or C-code, higher for the shaker or J-code.

To run in E/S=9.00 class, the Torino had to be factored to 400-425hp.
To run in SS/F=8.50 class, the Torino had to factor at 420-450hp.
Without factoring, the Torino fits in G/S=10.00 class at 375hp.
I dont know what was actually used in 1970 vs 1971, flat hood vs cold air, but for sure the engine was factored up quite a bit.

vic guilmino · 11-11-2020, 10:05 PM

i do not think Bud ever won class with ever car

John W. 1711 · 11-12-2020, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by vic guilmino

i do not think Bud ever won class with ever car

Probably not. Does anyone remember Nelson, that worked with the Norris Ford Drag Team? I can't recall his last name.

Dave Siltman · 11-12-2020, 08:39 PM

Bud’s T-Bolt is still around and owned locally. The Mustang and Torino are both owned by the same fellow who races them periodically at nostalgia events. I’m not sure if the cars are full restorations, or are somewhat original and refurbished. I’m not a Ford guy, but they are killer cars as is the owner,

Dave Siltman · 11-12-2020, 08:44 PM

While we’re on the subject of Bud, let’s not forget “Tommy’s Tiger”. Tommy Thompson/Thompson Lincoln Mercury owns what is by far, the BEST ‘65 B/FX Comet to exist. Tommy got the car new in ‘65 and still has it. Last time I saw it the odo showed 42 miles. Bud had a hand in that car and worked at Thompson for quite a while.

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vic guilmino Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: wv Posts: 884 Likes: 42 Liked 56 Times in 21 Posts	Re: 1965 US Nationals Stock Winner i do not think Bud ever won class with ever car __________________ Vic Guilmino 1129 STK

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Dave Siltman Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Maryland Posts: 72 Likes: 232 Liked 68 Times in 25 Posts	Re: 1965 US Nationals Stock Winner Bud’s T-Bolt is still around and owned locally. The Mustang and Torino are both owned by the same fellow who races them periodically at nostalgia events. I’m not sure if the cars are full restorations, or are somewhat original and refurbished. I’m not a Ford guy, but they are killer cars as is the owner,

11-12-2020, 08:44 PM	#5
Dave Siltman Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Maryland Posts: 72 Likes: 232 Liked 68 Times in 25 Posts	Re: 1965 US Nationals Stock Winner While we’re on the subject of Bud, let’s not forget “Tommy’s Tiger”. Tommy Thompson/Thompson Lincoln Mercury owns what is by far, the BEST ‘65 B/FX Comet to exist. Tommy got the car new in ‘65 and still has it. Last time I saw it the odo showed 42 miles. Bud had a hand in that car and worked at Thompson for quite a while.