1966 Ply Belvedere

[Chevy55]

Off topic but here's an old jem that I thought would interest the Mopar guys.




https://longisland.craigslist.org/ct...487999538.html

[Coleydog]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

I know you are, and it ain't gonna happen. Just like no one is going to be able to race a 68 Camaro with a 427 and a cowl induction hood and some bogus paperwork ,40 years after the fact.

Funny you mention that. Not knowing all the facts about Chevys, but back around 70 two close friends who where racing a 55 in modified production wanted to step up to a better car. So they decided to use Allens 68 Camero which had a 427 in it (he said he ordered it that way) well they ended up trading the 427 for a 302 out of Pee Wees 69 Z28. The Two partners, Standfield & Duerden, Gregg's Standfields uncle. Thanks for shaking the memory tree.
Mike

[Grey Ghost]

Originally Posted by OLD GUY

The Classification is correct. Believe Jason McCormack and Arlen Vanke had the only two 66 cars. Both were 4 speed cars, with radio, heater, sound deadener delete, hood scoop and battery in trunk. My info source says they were actually Chrysler cars. There was a lot of advertising back then that never came to pass in 66 or 67 model run years.

Would the scoop on those 2 cars have been the 65 scoop or the scoop used on the 67s?

[4406mopar]

Originally Posted by Grey Ghost

Would the scoop on those 2 cars have been the 65 scoop or the scoop used on the 67s?

The curve at the rear edge of the hood is different, scoops won't interchange too well.

[Rat Patrol]

Originally Posted by Steve Stasko

1966 Hemi Plymouths are not rare. 1966 is the highest production model year for all 426 Hemi cars from 1966-71.

As far as the scoop thing...

There are some internal memos floating around that describe a proposed package for the 1966 model year. It never got any further than that though. There was never any paperwork or information released to the public. The '67 car package is similar to the '66 package, but a little more tamed down. I seem to recall that the '66 package was to include a '65 style engine, I may be wrong on that though.

As far as the hood scoop, they were all steel on the '67 cars, and even the '65 cars for that matter. The '65 and '67 scoops are different. As for fiberglass scoops, it's either a repop or a '65 A/FX scoop, which would be noticeably different than the standard '67 scoop.

I do not agree with scoops on the '66 cars, and I'm a Mopar guy. The scoop does not offer much for a performance advantage in the way of "fresh" air, but in S/S I guess it would help with a taller intake if one would go that route.

Side note...I don't believe the '67 package cars were officially announced until very late '66, if not early '67. From my research, Sox and Landy were running standard hood cars at the AHRA Winters, and NHRA Winters in '67. I have determined that RO/WO production did not start until late February or early March of '67, and lasted for 6-8 weeks in small batches. While the cars did have sequential Shipping Order numbers, the VIN number spread between the earliest and latest cars I have recorded is quite large dispelling the "two batch" theory that has been purported by many.

Absolutely correct. Nosuch thing as an ‘RO23’ 66. Vanke didn’t mod the intake until end of year 66 - all 67RO23s were built Feb16 1967.....

That guys story about a ‘66’ RO23 has holes all the way through - Maybe his was a ‘super duty’ Belvedere? ......

[Henrys Toy]

Originally Posted by Paul Precht

The metric 200 is a big plus for the GM guys, I wish the 904 TF would bolt up to a BB Chrysler, not quite as good as a 727 Pro Trans but about 7 thousand dollars cheaper.

Good morning to all,
Does one of the Bellhousing Mfg.'s make a "bolt-on" B motor Bell for the 904 TorqueFlite? Maybe someone like JW ? I currently have another project in the works that might require some thing similar. Just a idle thought.
Have a good day!

Respectfully,
Henry Kunz

[Steve Stasko]

Originally Posted by Rat Patrol

Absolutely correct. Nosuch thing as an ‘RO23’ 66. Vanke didn’t mod the intake until end of year 66 - all 67RO23s were built Feb16 1967.....

That guys story about a ‘66’ RO23 has holes all the way through - Maybe his was a ‘super duty’ Belvedere? ......

All R0 cars were not built on that date, if you have proof that says otherwise, please share it. I have worked with a couple '67 R0 owners to put together as much VIN/Shipping Order data as possible (currently over 50% of built cars), and can comfortably say that these cars were built in packs over the course of a few weeks.

These cars have a spread of 16,000 numbers from the lowest VIN '67 R0/W0 to the highest vin. While it has been proven that Chrysler did not assemble cars in sequential vin order, the spread on these cars is much too far apart them to have been built within the same day, or even week for that matter. The shipping order numbers do seem to be sequential on the other hand, which would tell me that Chrysler set aside 110 car orders, to be filled as the units were sold/ordered by their respective dealers. The shipping order numbers do not directly correlate with the VIN numbers in any way.

[Paul Precht]

Originally Posted by Henrys Toy

Good morning to all,
Does one of the Bellhousing Mfg.'s make a "bolt-on" B motor Bell for the 904 TorqueFlite? Maybe someone like JW ? I currently have another project in the works that might require some thing similar. Just a idle thought.
Have a good day!

Respectfully,
Henry Kunz

Hi Henry, how's everything. The JW was accepted years ago but then removed I think, not sure if anyone had done it, might have been SS only. With all of the options the 4 spd cars have as well as Ford and GM auto's the BBM gets one option, a Pro-Trans, which is great if you have 9-10K to spend on a trans and convertor,the 727 is a huge power robber, Paul.

[Rat Patrol]

Originally Posted by Steve Stasko

All R0 cars were not built on that date, if you have proof that says otherwise, please share it. I have worked with a couple '67 R0 owners to put together as much VIN/Shipping Order data as possible (currently over 50% of built cars), and can comfortably say that these cars were built in packs over the course of a few weeks.

These cars have a spread of 16,000 numbers from the lowest VIN '67 R0/W0 to the highest vin. While it has been proven that Chrysler did not assemble cars in sequential vin order, the spread on these cars is much too far apart them to have been built within the same day, or even week for that matter. The shipping order numbers do seem to be sequential on the other hand, which would tell me that Chrysler set aside 110 car orders, to be filled as the units were sold/ordered by their respective dealers. The shipping order numbers do not directly correlate with the VIN numbers in any way.

Only going on what Jim Schilds book ‘Maximum Performance’ states - Page 117 in the ‘Tech Specs’ plate.

‘Since all RO/WO cars were built on Feb 12, the build date code will be 212’.

I did say Feb 16...my bad.

So clearly he has a different understanding to yours.

Anyhow, my main reason for dredging this thread up was to kill the myth that the ‘O23’ induction package was available in 66-

Damn...the cars weren’t even ready for the 67 Winternats!

[bigshow2966]

Originally Posted by Henrys Toy

Good morning to all,
Does one of the Bellhousing Mfg.'s make a "bolt-on" B motor Bell for the 904 TorqueFlite? Maybe someone like JW ? I currently have another project in the works that might require some thing similar. Just a idle thought.
Have a good day!

Respectfully,
Henry Kunz

Keith Long (727specialists) was doing BB 904's, but I think he ran into not being able to get bellhousings anymore. His number is 219/718-3542.