Moving from bracket to Stock Eliminator

F677 · 07-24-2021, 05:44 AM

Just wanted to introduce myself and ask for a little advice. My name is Devin Froud and I race a 1967 Mustang in Div. 6 Sportsman. With 4 years under my belt, and some success running in Summit bracket series, I have decided to convert my car to a Stock Eliminator setup and join the Lucas ranks. It looks like my (future) program will land me in N or M Stock automatic with a little 225hp rated 289. I have talked with some of my local stocker racers about the class, but I have a lot to learn, so I thought I would throw myself at your mercy. Give me the advise you would give any window licking newbie at your local track. Just be forewarned, "close your wallet and run," or "trade for a Dart, Nova, more modern ride" ain't going to sink in. I've made dumb decisions for fun too long to give up now.

Thanks in advance for the input..... and be easy, I may see you in the lanes, and I race better with hurt feelings.

Devin

Larry Hill · 07-24-2021, 07:34 AM

First look at what class does it run. Not being a Ford racer, but you might want to look at the flexibility of changing the car to a 68 to give you more engine options. A lot of racers use the 390 engine.
Welcome and good luck.

6130 · 07-24-2021, 08:32 AM

If you go no higher than N, the rule book will not require you to have a roll bar or SFI spec 16.1 driver's harness.

F677 · 07-24-2021, 08:37 AM

One of the reason I have stayed in sportsman. The car was my high school daily driver, and I'm not interested in filling it full of tubes.

MR DERBY CITY · 07-24-2021, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by F677

One of the reason I have stayed in sportsman. The car was my high school daily driver, and I'm not interested in filling it full of tubes.

I understand your reasoning, BUT ….when you race a COPO / MUSTANG that hits the brakes too hard at the stripe and gets out of control …..you and your FAMILY will WISH you had a roll bar and all the safety items …..

MoJo Risen · 07-24-2021, 02:11 PM

NHRA STOCK and SuperStock looks like a lot of fun but, it's much more work than Sportman racing, much more expensive, much more traveling expensive, and entry fees are 3 times as expensive with basically the same payout with exception to contingency which is hard to get paid once you do win or runner up in NHRA.

That being said I wish you well but...... for $50,000 you can own a Lebanon Dealer installed Whipple Ford Mustang that will run all three brackets and does not need any safety devices as long as you keep it under 135mph in 1/4 mile.

I inquired with Mike Rice of this vehicle and as of last season you can run 10.00 at 135 mph with minimal safety equipment " no roll bar or cage, etc. It is dealer installed supercharger and on pump gas and comes with 36,000 mile warranty.

Good luck
F776 Sportman/Pro

340Cuda · 07-24-2021, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by F677

I've made dumb decisions for fun too long to give up now.

Well that is certainly how I got here!

Welcome and have fun!

Bill Lamb

MR DERBY CITY · 07-24-2021, 10:55 AM

WELCOME …..Best advice, attend a few LODRS races as a spectator. Approach some of the FORD racers and ask them questions. Too many newbies make the mistake of building a car because they already have it …even if it is a VERY unfavorable combo ….

Mark Yacavone · 07-24-2021, 12:33 PM

First thing...Go here } http://www.classracerinfo.com/

It's de-factored to 199 hp, and while not a killer combo, it should run a half second under in N, without too much expense...Of course "too much expense " is a relative term.

BILL TAYLOR · 07-25-2021, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 340Cuda

Well that is certainly how I got here!

Welcome and have fun!

Bill Lamb

Dumb decisions ? You're gonna fit right in, Welcome ! Bill Taylor B/S 1005.

07-24-2021, 05:44 AM	#1
F677 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2021 Location: Roy WA Posts: 10 Likes: 30 Liked 21 Times in 6 Posts	Moving from bracket to Stock Eliminator Just wanted to introduce myself and ask for a little advice. My name is Devin Froud and I race a 1967 Mustang in Div. 6 Sportsman. With 4 years under my belt, and some success running in Summit bracket series, I have decided to convert my car to a Stock Eliminator setup and join the Lucas ranks. It looks like my (future) program will land me in N or M Stock automatic with a little 225hp rated 289. I have talked with some of my local stocker racers about the class, but I have a lot to learn, so I thought I would throw myself at your mercy. Give me the advise you would give any window licking newbie at your local track. Just be forewarned, "close your wallet and run," or "trade for a Dart, Nova, more modern ride" ain't going to sink in. I've made dumb decisions for fun too long to give up now. Thanks in advance for the input..... and be easy, I may see you in the lanes, and I race better with hurt feelings. Devin __________________ Devin Froud Div. 6 Roy Wa Last edited by F677; 07-24-2021 at 08:01 AM.

07-24-2021, 07:34 AM	#2
Larry Hill Live Reporter Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hickory, Ky Posts: 10,640 Likes: 1,940 Liked 10,714 Times in 2,230 Posts	Re: Moving from bracket to Stock Eliminator First look at what class does it run. Not being a Ford racer, but you might want to look at the flexibility of changing the car to a 68 to give you more engine options. A lot of racers use the 390 engine. Welcome and good luck. __________________ IHM Used Parts https://ihmusedparts.com 888-821-1817

07-24-2021, 08:32 AM	#3
6130 Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Texas Posts: 409 Likes: 295 Liked 117 Times in 50 Posts	Re: Moving from bracket to Stock Eliminator If you go no higher than N, the rule book will not require you to have a roll bar or SFI spec 16.1 driver's harness.

07-24-2021, 08:37 AM	#4
F677 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2021 Location: Roy WA Posts: 10 Likes: 30 Liked 21 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Moving from bracket to Stock Eliminator One of the reason I have stayed in sportsman. The car was my high school daily driver, and I'm not interested in filling it full of tubes. __________________ Devin Froud Div. 6 Roy Wa

07-24-2021, 02:11 PM	#6
MoJo Risen Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 200 Likes: 14 Liked 142 Times in 51 Posts	Re: Moving from bracket to Stock Eliminator NHRA STOCK and SuperStock looks like a lot of fun but, it's much more work than Sportman racing, much more expensive, much more traveling expensive, and entry fees are 3 times as expensive with basically the same payout with exception to contingency which is hard to get paid once you do win or runner up in NHRA. That being said I wish you well but...... for $50,000 you can own a Lebanon Dealer installed Whipple Ford Mustang that will run all three brackets and does not need any safety devices as long as you keep it under 135mph in 1/4 mile. I inquired with Mike Rice of this vehicle and as of last season you can run 10.00 at 135 mph with minimal safety equipment " no roll bar or cage, etc. It is dealer installed supercharger and on pump gas and comes with 36,000 mile warranty. Good luck F776 Sportman/Pro Last edited by MoJo Risen; 07-24-2021 at 02:15 PM.

07-24-2021, 10:55 AM	#8
MR DERBY CITY VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Derby City, USA Posts: 3,640 Likes: 1,083 Liked 7,938 Times in 1,519 Posts	Re: Moving from bracket to Stock Eliminator WELCOME …..Best advice, attend a few LODRS races as a spectator. Approach some of the FORD racers and ask them questions. Too many newbies make the mistake of building a car because they already have it …even if it is a VERY unfavorable combo ….

07-24-2021, 12:33 PM	#9
Mark Yacavone Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Miles From Nowhere Posts: 7,817 Likes: 2,907 Liked 5,121 Times in 1,952 Posts	Re: Moving from bracket to Stock Eliminator First thing...Go here } http://www.classracerinfo.com/ It's de-factored to 199 hp, and while not a killer combo, it should run a half second under in N, without too much expense...Of course "too much expense " is a relative term. __________________ "We are lucky we don't get as much Government as we pay for." Will Rogers