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Old 07-29-2021, 06:52 PM   #1
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I agree with Brother Cotton on all points.
Let me add a few additional complaints I have with it. Now you all know I’m never been an nhra basher and stick up for them regularly.
But this right here hurts. And yes, full disclosure, I have not been to Indy before, this will be my first time.

My biggest problems are that they have combined S and SS class racing into one day, and what’s probably worse, is that as mike said, 50% of the core nhra sportsman classes will
be done on Thursday, and what, 75%? will be done on Friday while then we have:
“Street Car Shootout”, “Nostalgia Pro Stock”, and “Scott Rods Exhibition” running in front of the fans Friday AND Saturday”.

They are trying to deal with a tight schedule, made tighter by one less day, yet they add classes that do not, and technically have no official place in an nhra national event, yet those classes get some “fans in the stand time” while 75% of us either pack up and head home or drink beer and watch.

Extremely disappointed.

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Old 07-29-2021, 09:39 PM   #2
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Seems parking is very important to the schedule now. 5 of the 8 day schedule has parking involved. 5 days have racing happening.

Not sure how big the audience is for 1930 and 1940 straight axle hotrods that are willing to pay U.S. National ticket prices. Half of them can't make a full pass. Same goes for 3 or 4 nostalgia pro stockers. Bring them to a divisional race maybe to get fans. We could remove the wheelie bars from a couple stock and superstock cars to make more wows I'm sure. I can shoe polish my bumper if it pays.

You look at the schedule for Friday. Nitro starts at 7:30 and secure the track 8:45. Big fields are expected I guess. Pits should be 3/4 empty by then.

To be honest I haven't been at Indy since 1982. I moved from division 1 to division 7 when my first wife passed from Cancer. So I don't have much say in the race. Too far for me these days to tow. Wish I could!. When I did go there were over 200 stockers there to fill a 96 car field. That was some great racing just to make the field.

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Old 07-30-2021, 09:33 AM   #3
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My biggest problems are that they have combined S and SS class racing into one day, and what’s probably worse, is that as mike said, 50% of the core nhra sportsman classes will
be done on Thursday, and what, 75%? will be done on Friday while then we have:
“Street Car Shootout”, “Nostalgia Pro Stock”, and “Scott Rods Exhibition” running in front of the fans Friday AND Saturday”.

Extremely disappointed.

Kp
Add up all the views these exhibitions get and you might end up with half the views the Johnny Gray/John Shaul final got.
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Old 07-30-2021, 12:09 PM   #4
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Bobby brings up a good point. The views from that heads-up final might hopefully shine a little light on future decision making. NHRA has a tough job to try and please the audience and the racer alike (along with balancing a schedule). It can't be easy and hopefully with the input from the SRA, the sportsman schedules will be considered and constructed in a favorable manner.

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Old 07-30-2021, 12:28 PM   #5
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Glad I did my INDY thing a few years ago, the spectacle, pagentry, tech, it all was great

Gray Vs Shaul...wonderful....BUT lets not forget
INDY 2010
A/S. McCormick vs Calvert....THE BEST EVER
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Old 07-30-2021, 12:51 PM   #6
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im pretty sure they dont care that they now cancelled the ANNUAL thursday night we passed teardown trip to support our local young ladies at Dancers strip club ....

NHRA we can only stand SO MUCH

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Old 07-30-2021, 12:59 PM   #7
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The "OLD INDY" is definitely gone. Now with the Monday eliminations being cut out of the schedule moving forward. Having our own day/days(Thursday & Friday + Teardown days) for stk/ss class is over. The best case scenario is that the All-Stars gets put back to Chicago or another National Event venue next year and beyond, and we have Class Runoffs for STK & SS on Thursdays. I doubt NHRA would be willing to start us on Tuesday in order to maintain the schedule we have had for the past 65+ years, nor would they concede on working longer days and/or getting rid of exhibition classes to free up the schedule. Its all about the Benjamins now!

Please reach out to Josh Petterson and Ned Walliser at NHRA to voice your concerns/displeasure...all other NHRA personnel cannot be of any assistance on this matter.
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The "OLD INDY" is definitely gone. Now with the Monday eliminations being cut out of the schedule moving forward. Having our own day/days(Thursday & Friday + Teardown days) for stk/ss class is over. The best case scenario is that the All-Stars gets put back to Chicago or another National Event venue next year and beyond, and we have Class Runoffs for STK & SS on Thursdays. I doubt NHRA would be willing to start us on Tuesday in order to maintain the schedule we have had for the past 65+ years, nor would they concede on working longer days and/or getting rid of exhibition classes to free up the schedule. Its all about the Benjamins now!

Please reach out to Josh Petterson and Ned Walliser at NHRA to voice your concerns/displeasure...all other NHRA personnel cannot be of any assistance on this matter.
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Old 07-30-2021, 01:56 PM   #9
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Glad I did my INDY thing a few years ago, the spectacle, pagentry, tech, it all was great

Gray Vs Shaul...wonderful....BUT lets not forget
INDY 2010
A/S. McCormick vs Calvert....THE BEST EVER
Fortunate enough to be on the fence for that A/S run “The best ever” describes it perfectly and while you can loop it on YouTube all day long you’ll never get the full amazement that many of us enjoyed that day. That run plus Glidden getting in one of Cunningham’s Mustangs and almost qualifying on a run that any other driver would have aborted combined to make it the greatest Indy I’ve witnessed and that includes Big shaving his beard after winning or Dyno Don dry hopping his A/FX car behind the line, Wild Willy doing his one handed deal, and so many more I’ve seen since my first Indy. Point being; the traditional Indy format has provided so many memorable moments that demonstrated the PASSION that has always been on display there. Don’t think the current bean counters at NHRA share that passion. To them it’s simply another business that treats its customers and even employees (yes, I’m still pissed about Bloom and Redman and others) as mere tools to keep their bottom line covered and paychecks inflated. That’s not to say I wouldn’t run Indy this year (even though Rink or others will make short work of me in class) because there’s always hope that for a brief moment something might happen that recaptures the passion and thereby keep us hopelessly hooked on The Big Go.
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It is unfortunate that to most of the NHRA upper staff it's JUST A JOB, nothing more. Yes there are some that love the sport, but they are the minority.

NHRA - - We don't care, we don't have to.

R.I.P. Wally Parks and THANK YOU for starting a great organization that, unfortunately, is not what it used to be, but could be again - with some internal help and passion.
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