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Ron, a stick car could and probably will be faster in high gear,not quicker. Remember that we race the entire track and part of that track is the beginning of tthe track.
Good automatic cars will own the front half of the track vs a similar car with a stick in many classes. I am not saying they all would work, but there are many that do. I can’t imagine an automatic FS Car Being afraid of a stick car unless they beat their hp to death already compared to the same car with a stick.
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I think that the way automatic and manual transmissions are ran today that they should just go ahead and put them all in one class. ....... or either go back to the way it used to be: what ever came from factory is what should be used.
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Personally, I think the modern "factory" PURPOSE BUILT race cars have made enough of a mockery of Stock Eliminator rules already, without kicking the door wide open to even more liberal allowances of non OE components.
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I now have a G Force 4 speed, previously ran Jerico 4 speed. And these NHRA approved transmissions were behind a 5.0 Mustang engine, equipped with the exact same heads, intake manifold , carb, cam lift, etc, as tens of thousands of 85 5.0 Mustangs that had a VIN and were available ,(with warranty) for the street for anybody who walked into a Ford dealership,and drive one home. Can you say that about your COPO? Or do you honestly believe that there is anything "STOCK" about a hand built race car that never was available for street use, that uses engine combinations unavailable to the public in a street version, with a transmission that GM has not offered in 50 years, and a FORD differential that was NEVER available in a GM car ? Just curious.
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The factories built plenty of "special performance" engine combinations in the sixties that had very limited access. The biggest hurdles that they have to face today are emission and crash test standards that did not exist back then. The transmissions that we are discussing are aftermarket replacements that meet current SFI standards. Not rebuilt older units. When Chevrolet built the first COPO's they decided that the transmissions had to use all new parts. That's why they all got two-speeds! In 2011 when I started building a 2010 Camaro Stocker, the NHRA made me put a 12-bolt in it. Some time later, they changed the rules to allow a 9" in any 2008 and up car when replacing the IRS. Since the newer Camaros have an available 9.8" ring gear, I don't see this as a problem. Especially since the rear ends being fabricated do not contain one OEM part. Last edited by GUMP; 08-16-2021 at 06:56 PM. |
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Well better take me off your Christmas card list as many of the cars i've raced will fall into that category - like my '57 Fuel Injected Bel Air in the sixties or my '60 Sedan Delivery 348/320 hp with Hydra-matic transmission in the seventies or better yet my Cutlass factory racer in the eighties - then it really gets good in the 90's when I started with the Firebirds and Camaros with the 350/275 LT1's and later L S series engines and finally lets look at my 04 GTO 350/340 HP ...........And then came the COPO'S --don't you get it - there will always be the next great thing -- it's progress - get used to it !!!!!!!
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