Has INDY lost its luster ??? - Page 4

Pistol Pete · 09-02-2021, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by BRETV

I could of sworn I heard Marshall blipping the throttle right before the finish line. I think they both held a little back. Awesome race!!!

Bret Velde
2003 ??/SA

If their isn’t any $$$ to win class, why risk going 1.20 under just to get a HP hit ??
Probably why you might’ve heard him blip the throttle.

thomas sheehan · 09-02-2021, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by BRETV

I could of sworn I heard Marshall blipping the throttle right before the finish line. I think they both held a little back. Awesome race!!!

Bret Velde
2003 ??/SA

I agree Bret... I believe he gave it back to him (trying to avoid the dreaded -1.20 under run)... Just my opinion

Frank Castros · 09-02-2021, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Some reasons why the bloom is off the rose, IMO...Some might be temporary..Some not.
Not necessarily in chronological order.

Class winners no longer automatically qualify.

Single class cars have to run Combo to win a trophy

Higher entry with less money to win..Class money down to peanuts, thanks to NHRA's bogus sponsor fleecing system.

ALL class winners used to have to tear down at Paul Harvey Ford..This separated the workers from the Wallets

Labor day finals..a tradition.

All Stars are a Sportsman program..They belong at Sportsnationals..Put them back where they belong.

No longer calling class in alphabetical order. ( I should have said "running") Another tradition,...gone for the sake of expedience

No Redman

AHFS...What did enforcing it just prove, when it's going to be mineshaft anyway? All it did was hide the fact that there are a few combos that their system can't deal with.

180 quota made for more variety and more effort to make the show. Icing, pushing cars to the water box etc. in order to make or stay in the show. Isn't that what Indy is supposed to be about?

I'm sure there's more...

If I could have liked this post 100 times I would have.

James Perrone · 09-02-2021, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by thomas sheehan

I agree Bret... I believe he gave it back to him (trying to avoid the dreaded -1.20 under run)... Just my opinion

No. He wasn’t
Jim Marshall is racing with apiece of plywood for a front end
The camaro on the other hand is cutting thru the headwind like an arrow
Also Jim is carrying 150 lbs more than the camaro
Looking at the time slip the camaro picks up like 4 hundred from the 660 to the 1000ft
Great race but the 305 camaro is a little soft ...but fast

MR DERBY CITY · 09-02-2021, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by James Perrone

No. He wasn’t
Jim Marshall is racing with apiece of plywood for a front end
The camaro on the other hand is cutting thru the headwind like an arrow
Also Jim is carrying 150 lbs more than the camaro
Looking at the time slip the camaro picks up like 4 hundred from the 660 to the 1000ft
Great race but the 305 camaro is a little soft ...but fast

Actually James, it’s that ultra trick 1983 front fascia that makes the camaro so wind resistant …..

Paradigm Shift · 09-02-2021, 12:20 PM

It appears that Jim Marshall has the car set up for 10.97-10.98 passes.

He had a starting line advantage in excess of .04 on the last class run.

Chris Butcher could not have gone any quicker or faster on that specific pass.

During this event, it's highly probable that Jim Marshall could have gone well below 10.97 if he chose to.

Frank Castros · 09-02-2021, 04:50 PM

Has INDY lost its luster ???

For me not yet, it's been pretty damn cool so far, but to Mark's points it could be even better which gives me "goose bumps".

I live for this!

Mike Fuller · 09-05-2021, 10:55 AM

If they would eliminate all throttle stop cars from this race it would help to bring back some of the "Go fast or go home" identity to this race. We now have plenty of classes to fill up the all the time this race has ( Top Sportsman, Top Dragster, Pro Mod, Factory Stock Showdown, Top Fuel Harley). Move the Jegs race to Columbus at the Sports Nationals.

B Parker · 09-05-2021, 11:30 AM

Both Jim and Chris have two fast race cars. Both are more than capable drivers. This time Chris did what he needed to win. Congrats to Rod and Chris.

If they were to race again without the AHFS I wouldn't bet on either one. They are both that fast. BP

Glenn Briglio · 09-05-2021, 08:11 PM

Marshall ran his car as a 79 model Nova. The 77 model Nova has a better hp factor

09-02-2021, 12:20 PM	#36
Paradigm Shift Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 143 Likes: 3 Liked 80 Times in 29 Posts	Re: Has INDY lost its luster ??? It appears that Jim Marshall has the car set up for 10.97-10.98 passes. He had a starting line advantage in excess of .04 on the last class run. Chris Butcher could not have gone any quicker or faster on that specific pass. During this event, it's highly probable that Jim Marshall could have gone well below 10.97 if he chose to.

09-02-2021, 04:50 PM	#37
Frank Castros VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The Lowcountry. Posts: 3,009 Likes: 2,693 Liked 2,765 Times in 978 Posts	Re: Has INDY lost its luster ??? Has INDY lost its luster ??? For me not yet, it's been pretty damn cool so far, but to Mark's points it could be even better which gives me "goose bumps". I live for this!

09-05-2021, 10:55 AM	#38
Mike Fuller Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 953 Likes: 578 Liked 203 Times in 80 Posts	Re: Has INDY lost its luster ??? If they would eliminate all throttle stop cars from this race it would help to bring back some of the "Go fast or go home" identity to this race. We now have plenty of classes to fill up the all the time this race has ( Top Sportsman, Top Dragster, Pro Mod, Factory Stock Showdown, Top Fuel Harley). Move the Jegs race to Columbus at the Sports Nationals. __________________ Mike Fuller 396 STK 3961 SS Last edited by Mike Fuller; 09-05-2021 at 12:36 PM.

09-05-2021, 11:30 AM	#39
B Parker Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 852 Likes: 995 Liked 2,343 Times in 465 Posts	Re: Has INDY lost its luster ??? Both Jim and Chris have two fast race cars. Both are more than capable drivers. This time Chris did what he needed to win. Congrats to Rod and Chris. If they were to race again without the AHFS I wouldn't bet on either one. They are both that fast. BP

09-05-2021, 08:11 PM	#40
Glenn Briglio VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Massapequa Park,NY Posts: 1,288 Likes: 1,913 Liked 975 Times in 311 Posts	Re: Has INDY lost its luster ??? Marshall ran his car as a 79 model Nova. The 77 model Nova has a better hp factor __________________ 1989 Camaro Iroc-Z I/SA B&B Auto Machine Shop.