Belle Rose S & SS combo

JRyan · 04-06-2008, 05:21 PM

Bryan,

If that's the case, why does Buckner continue running on a 12.00 Index after running 1.26 under the first round, and then way under again later? Whatever the set-up was, it certainly doesn't appear to be consistent.

Jerry

Bryan Worner · 04-06-2008, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JRyan

Bryan,

If that's the case, why does Buckner continue running on a 12.00 Index after running 1.26 under the first round, and then way under again later? Whatever the set-up was, it certainly doesn't appear to be consistent.

Jerry

Do the numbers. He only went .98 under in the final. His index was not corrected after he went 1.2something under in a previous round.

John Mason · 04-06-2008, 06:52 PM

Bryan,
DRC shows his dial (not his index) as 12.00 in the final. He went 10.776 which is shown as -1.224 under, with a .010 light. That's a .157 better package.
What part of the math is wrong?

JRyan · 04-06-2008, 07:49 PM

Bryan,

I'm aware of the "numbers". My point is that the methodology for listing the INDEX (dial) on a particular car/driver wasn't very consistent. In some cases, they changed the Index, and in others they didn't. It was rather obvious that guys were winning against much better packages, so adjustments were being made somewhere. Moot point now. Congrats to Slate for his excellent driving.

Jerry

Pat Joffrion · 04-07-2008, 08:31 AM

Guys, the DRC input had to be submitted manually for a download. I haven't seen their thread, but I can tell you that the "dial-in" for the 1st round was a driver's index. I personally wrote their dial-in using their respective class index.

Some used a ton of index to win rounds, while others ran less than 1.00 under to save their index. I used each round's run sheet from the tower to make the following round dial-in changes.

The race was a big hit with the drivers and we will definitely do this again next year, and may do it as an all-run instead of class winners only.

Pat

chlngr73 · 04-07-2008, 09:02 AM

I can say first hand that Pat put on a heck of a race. He worked his tail off to make sure everyone's dial-ins were right, and made a ladder for us to run on. This is hands down the best race of the season, and Pat is definitely the best track owner in the country. Thanks again Pat and the crew for everything. Now if I can just get that 1-2 shift down maybe I can WIN it next year....I heard they run faster that way!! Haha see y'all next year...

David Buckner
E/SA 4772

John Mason · 04-07-2008, 12:04 PM

Pat,
Now I understand. Thanks.
Wish I could make it there again but $4 diesel makes it tough to justify a 2500 mile trip.
Pass my congrats to Kevin.

david ring · 04-07-2008, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Pat Joffrion

The race was a big hit with the drivers and we will definitely do this again next year, and may do it as an all-run instead of class winners only.

Pat

Pat,

I hope this gets picked up at other special events-I'd love to see one of these at the Dutch Classic.

Byron Worner · 04-07-2008, 01:17 PM

Pat,

Did you have a ladder for 1st round or as it random?

I participated in the NSCA race at Cecil County in 2006. We ran off our index with a CIC. Only 6 cars though. I had a lot of fun and said if there were about 16 or more cars that alot of CIC would be going on. It appeared this was the casse in Belle Rose. It just goes to show the fastest car doesn't always win. Nice job Slate.

04-06-2008, 05:21 PM	#1
JRyan Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aberdeen SD Posts: 645 Likes: 30 Liked 112 Times in 31 Posts	Re: Belle Rose S & SS combo Bryan, If that's the case, why does Buckner continue running on a 12.00 Index after running 1.26 under the first round, and then way under again later? Whatever the set-up was, it certainly doesn't appear to be consistent. Jerry

04-06-2008, 06:52 PM	#3
John Mason Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 147 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Belle Rose S & SS combo Bryan, DRC shows his dial (not his index) as 12.00 in the final. He went 10.776 which is shown as -1.224 under, with a .010 light. That's a .157 better package. What part of the math is wrong? __________________ John Mason 7743 SS

04-06-2008, 07:49 PM	#4
JRyan Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aberdeen SD Posts: 645 Likes: 30 Liked 112 Times in 31 Posts	Re: Belle Rose S & SS combo Bryan, I'm aware of the "numbers". My point is that the methodology for listing the INDEX (dial) on a particular car/driver wasn't very consistent. In some cases, they changed the Index, and in others they didn't. It was rather obvious that guys were winning against much better packages, so adjustments were being made somewhere. Moot point now. Congrats to Slate for his excellent driving. Jerry

04-07-2008, 08:31 AM	#5
Pat Joffrion Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Bayou Country, Louisiana Posts: 163 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Belle Rose S & SS combo Guys, the DRC input had to be submitted manually for a download. I haven't seen their thread, but I can tell you that the "dial-in" for the 1st round was a driver's index. I personally wrote their dial-in using their respective class index. Some used a ton of index to win rounds, while others ran less than 1.00 under to save their index. I used each round's run sheet from the tower to make the following round dial-in changes. The race was a big hit with the drivers and we will definitely do this again next year, and may do it as an all-run instead of class winners only. Pat

04-07-2008, 09:02 AM	#6
chlngr73 Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 131 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Belle Rose S & SS combo I can say first hand that Pat put on a heck of a race. He worked his tail off to make sure everyone's dial-ins were right, and made a ladder for us to run on. This is hands down the best race of the season, and Pat is definitely the best track owner in the country. Thanks again Pat and the crew for everything. Now if I can just get that 1-2 shift down maybe I can WIN it next year....I heard they run faster that way!! Haha see y'all next year... David Buckner E/SA 4772

04-07-2008, 12:04 PM	#7
John Mason Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 147 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Belle Rose S & SS combo Pat, Now I understand. Thanks. Wish I could make it there again but $4 diesel makes it tough to justify a 2500 mile trip. Pass my congrats to Kevin. __________________ John Mason 7743 SS

04-07-2008, 01:17 PM	#9
Byron Worner Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 229 Likes: 11 Liked 28 Times in 5 Posts	Re: Belle Rose S & SS combo Pat, Did you have a ladder for 1st round or as it random? I participated in the NSCA race at Cecil County in 2006. We ran off our index with a CIC. Only 6 cars though. I had a lot of fun and said if there were about 16 or more cars that alot of CIC would be going on. It appeared this was the casse in Belle Rose. It just goes to show the fastest car doesn't always win. Nice job Slate.