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Old 10-26-2021, 10:40 AM   #1
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Actually I was talking about Bill O'Conner's car..Shouldn't have called him Billy .Everybody knows who Billy is :-0
I almost went the Ecotec /stick route myself..They are everywhere.. Then I found the Escort , thankfully..I really didn't want to go that fast in the eliminator ;-)

We're going in circles now ..Still want to see the evidence that automatic FWD's are more consistent.
Oh yeah...I agree. I don't think there's any real usable data that'll show a FWD is more consistent than your average stocker...I think the most consistent cars in stock are going to be in the 10.50-12.00 range (slow enough that spin isn't a major concern, quick enough that wind and weather don't affect them quite as much)
Perhaps if you compare to the other 14.00 and slower stockers, you could make that case for FWD vs RWD in that context.
I know for sure that my Ranger is FAR from "consistent" most of the time...but it is at least fairly predictable for the most part.
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Old 10-26-2021, 12:18 PM   #2
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Oh yeah...I agree. I don't think there's any real usable data that'll show a FWD is more consistent than your average stocker...I think the most consistent cars in stock are going to be in the 10.50-12.00 range (slow enough that spin isn't a major concern, quick enough that wind and weather don't affect them quite as much)
Perhaps if you compare to the other 14.00 and slower stockers, you could make that case for FWD vs RWD in that context.
I know for sure that my Ranger is FAR from "consistent" most of the time...but it is at least fairly predictable for the most part.
I think the most consistent cars in stock are going to be ....EFI and slippery
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Old 10-26-2021, 01:25 PM   #3
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I think the most consistent cars in stock are going to be ....EFI and slippery
Ya know, when I started out with this Cavalier project, it was because it was/is something different that would put me "out of my comfort zone" and let me learn something. Well, the biggest thing that I have learned or been taught by this car is how consistent OBDII cars are and how aerodynamic they are. I now know why the new stuff is becoming so prevalent and why there are so many Cavaliers/Cobalts in SS/GT.
Of all of the combos that I have played with over the years, this stupid little car is, hands down the most consistent thing that I have driven and that INCLUDES my Bracket cars!
When I can keep from going red, I have never in my life won or lost (mostly lost) more races by .00 something. What ever my weather station says it will go, it usually will and it is no where as affected by the wind as my other stuff even though it doesn't make as much power. The biggest problem that I have (other than fouling) is trusting the numbers and NOT holding a bit. Old habits die hard.
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Old 10-26-2021, 02:40 PM   #4
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I think the most consistent cars in stock are going to be ....EFI and slippery
Fair...My only concern on the faster cars is their propensity to spin on lesser track surfaces. But that is becoming less of a concern with a lot of these newer cars and the technology.

I certainly agree that the majority of those cars are likely to be more consistent in the class these days.
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How many FWD stockers are running these days ?
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Old 10-26-2021, 09:50 PM   #6
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Last year in Nitro Joes stat's, I think there were 5 or 6. Those are running in either National or Divisional event's. There's Billy's Cavalier, Yac's Escort, My Escort, Polhill's early Escort, The Underdog early Escort, then who knows how many others built but sitting or being built. I may have doubled up on some of those.
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