Can We Un-ring The Bell

[tommy d]

Originally Posted by Todd Hoven

What is wrong with the blinders?

Because you can win with them and he can't. They could take it all away and still someone will look for an excuse as to why you win and they don't.

[Kyle Kohr]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

What I'd like to know is how many Racers are actually "spot-dropping" and how many are using their ignition box, grid and data logger to determine an exact time and distance on the track to "drop". Something that the system is perfectly capable of doing. Again, I'll say "It's the 21ST Century. I tend to doubt that many very successful Racers are picking a pole or flag to "drop" on.

Are you talking about spot dropping to keep their cars slower than a second under or spot dropping to hit their dial in?

If your talking about to hit your dial in I’d have to agree your tune up is way reliable unless blatantly cheating with the grid such as using an arc module or something similar. Just pulling timing at x seconds isn’t going to help if you lost a tenth at half track because the setup/tune up is bad. You’d need to have something that tells the grid your track position which is already illegal.

I would argue and say that successful racers are just in good consistent cars, not pushing rules with electronics.

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by tommy d

Because you can win with them and he can't. They could take it all away and still someone will look for an excuse as to why you win and they don't.

Kinda like deep staging, isn't it? ;-)

[Lenny5160]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

What I'd like to know is how many Racers are actually "spot-dropping" and how many are using their ignition box, grid and data logger to determine an exact time and distance on the track to "drop". Something that the system is perfectly capable of doing. Again, I'll say "It's the 21ST Century. I tend to doubt that many very successful Racers are picking a pole or flag to "drop" on.

Is there anyone that is successfully spot-dropping on every run, or hitting the dial dead-on every time they do it?

Spot dropping is one tool in the bag of a complete top-end driver, and learning how much to hold and how to kill it is a learned and earned skill. The car also needs to be good first.

[Frank Castros]

Originally Posted by Lenny5160

Is there anyone that is successfully spot-dropping on every run, or hitting the dial dead-on every time they do it?

Spot dropping is one tool in the bag of a complete top-end driver, and learning how much to hold and how to kill it is a learned and earned skill. The car also needs to be good first.

I would venture to say that there are more good cars out there than great drivers.

[Lenny5160]

Originally Posted by Frank Castros

I would venture to say that there are more good cars out there than great drivers.

I'd 100% agree. I'm mostly puzzled by a post that is worried about illegal drop spot identification, as if there are people killing it with the spot drop constantly. Unless one doesn't understand how/why it is utilized.

[Dave Noll]

Could someone please tell me the difference between electronic "traction control" or a light flywheel or a slipper clutch?

[1347]

Originally Posted by Lenny5160

I'd 100% agree. I'm mostly puzzled by a post that is worried about illegal drop spot identification, as if there are people killing it with the spot drop constantly. Unless one doesn't understand how/why it is utilized.

I think Billy was referring to if using a grid and a program to spot drop. The opposite of a .90 car on the other end. Wouldn't that be like using a throttle stop timer?

Originally Posted by Todd Hoven

What is wrong with the blinders?

Nothing. Every car was equipped with them from the factory. If not there -you do it on your visor. Nothing illegal about them. Nothing in the rule book that says; you cannot have them or have to see every bulb. Same with brake switches.

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Lenny5160

I'd 100% agree. I'm mostly puzzled by a post that is worried about illegal drop spot identification, as if there are people killing it with the spot drop constantly. Unless one doesn't understand how/why it is utilized.

I fully understand how "spot dropping" works. I've spent the better part of my life in a slower-than-normal car.
What I am questioning is, can a "good" car be set up to use the data loggers timer (set up to start on WOT) and drive shaft sensor or wheel sensor to "turn on" something like a shift light at a certain point on the track to "alert" the driver to lift? I know that it's possible but is it practical? Ya know, kinda like a matty box but not exactly (is that a dirty term?). I have been around long enough to know that a couple of great drivers have been caught with them AND delay boxes.