Access to AMA Shipping Weights?

Larry Hill · 02-05-2022, 11:38 PM

Not only Chevy but I went to bed with an A/SA and woke up with a C/SA car. NHRA you just got to love them. Pat, Wesley, or Lonnie could have given us some kind of heads up.
What’s the verbiage “Verified by.........”

GTS340 · 02-06-2022, 01:55 AM

I wonder if there are more to come. Maybe that is why they haven't mentioned it yet. How many drivers will show up at Pomona with their car in the wrong class. It seem 70 Cudas are all heavier now. I told Errol Farmer his 340 six pack can't run D/SA anymore. How about like Larry. The 70 cuda with a 440 4bbl is a natural F/SA car. I see some of the 71 Mopar B-Bodies are different too.
I did check my 440 69 Dart. So far no change...not yet anyway.

Paul Haszlauer

littlemanjoe · 02-06-2022, 02:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Hill

Not only Chevy but I went to bed with an A/SA and woke up with a C/SA car. NHRA you just got to love them. Pat, Wesley, or Lonnie could have given us some kind of heads up.
What’s the verbiage “Verified by.........”

The 6 pack Cuda and Challengers are now a natural "C" car so the best we can run is "B"
I'm not sure how or why this was so top secret!?
We was the process of trying to get weight out of the car due to the athletic figure of the driver. Then I get a phone call at midnight saying I now have to put 200lbs back in the car. How is this even possible?

GTS340 · 02-06-2022, 02:46 AM

440 6bbl E-Body cars are natural "C/SA" now as Larry said. 9.18 factor.
Over night, Larry's and many other six packs went from a A/SA to a natural C/SA. Can now run D/SA. What the....? Obviously B/SA will have a new fast car.
Paul

SSDA Hemi · 02-06-2022, 08:21 AM

My Cuda has been a natural SS/DA since 1970. 52 years later they figure out, NO, you're natural SS/EA??!!

Funny thing was 1971 Cuda was always natural "E" car. seems some converted to 70 just to run SS/CA. Someone threw the heavier shipping weight '71 car a bone after 52 years and.... Have to convert to '71 to run SS?CA?????

WTF NHRA!!!!
Now you tell me LOL and SMH!!

opened up a new can of worms....

Larry Hill · 02-06-2022, 08:49 AM

A lot of the combinations are not listed in the
AMA Specifications-Passanger Cars sheets

Have y’all noticed the price of lead lately. I wonder in NHRA owns lead future’s

Frank Castros · 02-06-2022, 10:08 AM

The N.H.R.A. Technical Dept.gets a big fail for not sending a notification to all the racers or at the very least posting a statement on the Competition page.
I was impressed with Lonnie, but this is just unacceptable.

fordteacherguy · 02-06-2022, 11:04 AM

Shipping weight can be adjusted by NHRA at a whim. A few years ago they changed the shipping weight of 89 Mustang coupe to a lighter shipping weight to make that body group for 1987-1993 unable to change 4 classes as the weights between those various years and models were originally listed from the factory. Some years were light and most of the 89's were heavy depending on transmission and model. A couple of us got bounced out of N/SA when they made up a new weight for the 89 coupe.

littlemanjoe · 02-06-2022, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTS340

440 6bbl E-Body cars are natural "C/SA" now as Larry said. 9.18 factor.
Over night, Larry's and many other six packs went from a A/SA to a natural C/SA. Can now run D/SA. What the....? Obviously B/SA will have a new fast car.
Paul

I meant to put C. It was a "B".....lol late night typing.

Larry Hill · 02-06-2022, 05:45 PM

Mr Joe now it figures 9.18 lbs per rated HP =C

What I cant find in the AMA sheets and I've looked at 1967-1972 at all of the Ford stuff. I have yet to find a .527/.527 lift camshaft for the 428/360/335 engine. You would think it would be highlighted in yellow.

02-05-2022, 11:38 PM	#1
Larry Hill Live Reporter Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hickory, Ky Posts: 10,627 Likes: 1,917 Liked 10,674 Times in 2,219 Posts	Re: Access to AMA Shipping Weights? Not only Chevy but I went to bed with an A/SA and woke up with a C/SA car. NHRA you just got to love them. Pat, Wesley, or Lonnie could have given us some kind of heads up. What’s the verbiage “Verified by.........” __________________ IHM Used Parts https://ihmusedparts.com 888-821-1817

02-06-2022, 01:55 AM	#2
GTS340 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Las Vegas, Nv Posts: 864 Likes: 265 Liked 1,331 Times in 404 Posts	Re: Access to AMA Shipping Weights? I wonder if there are more to come. Maybe that is why they haven't mentioned it yet. How many drivers will show up at Pomona with their car in the wrong class. It seem 70 Cudas are all heavier now. I told Errol Farmer his 340 six pack can't run D/SA anymore. How about like Larry. The 70 cuda with a 440 4bbl is a natural F/SA car. I see some of the 71 Mopar B-Bodies are different too. I did check my 440 69 Dart. So far no change...not yet anyway. Paul Haszlauer

02-06-2022, 02:46 AM	#4
GTS340 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Las Vegas, Nv Posts: 864 Likes: 265 Liked 1,331 Times in 404 Posts	Re: Access to AMA Shipping Weights? 440 6bbl E-Body cars are natural "C/SA" now as Larry said. 9.18 factor. Over night, Larry's and many other six packs went from a A/SA to a natural C/SA. Can now run D/SA. What the....? Obviously B/SA will have a new fast car. Paul

02-06-2022, 08:21 AM	#5
SSDA Hemi Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: NJ Posts: 503 Likes: 130 Liked 451 Times in 77 Posts	Re: Access to AMA Shipping Weights? My Cuda has been a natural SS/DA since 1970. 52 years later they figure out, NO, you're natural SS/EA??!! Funny thing was 1971 Cuda was always natural "E" car. seems some converted to 70 just to run SS/CA. Someone threw the heavier shipping weight '71 car a bone after 52 years and.... Have to convert to '71 to run SS?CA????? WTF NHRA!!!! Now you tell me LOL and SMH!! opened up a new can of worms....

02-06-2022, 08:49 AM	#6
Larry Hill Live Reporter Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hickory, Ky Posts: 10,627 Likes: 1,917 Liked 10,674 Times in 2,219 Posts	Re: Access to AMA Shipping Weights? A lot of the combinations are not listed in the AMA Specifications-Passanger Cars sheets Have y’all noticed the price of lead lately. I wonder in NHRA owns lead future’s __________________ IHM Used Parts https://ihmusedparts.com 888-821-1817 Last edited by Larry Hill; 02-06-2022 at 09:30 AM.

02-06-2022, 10:08 AM	#7
Frank Castros VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The Lowcountry. Posts: 2,959 Likes: 2,546 Liked 2,626 Times in 950 Posts	Re: Access to AMA Shipping Weights? The N.H.R.A. Technical Dept.gets a big fail for not sending a notification to all the racers or at the very least posting a statement on the Competition page. I was impressed with Lonnie, but this is just unacceptable. Last edited by Frank Castros; 02-06-2022 at 06:12 PM.

02-06-2022, 11:04 AM	#8
fordteacherguy Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Federal Way, WA Posts: 238 Likes: 32 Liked 160 Times in 51 Posts	Re: Access to AMA Shipping Weights? Shipping weight can be adjusted by NHRA at a whim. A few years ago they changed the shipping weight of 89 Mustang coupe to a lighter shipping weight to make that body group for 1987-1993 unable to change 4 classes as the weights between those various years and models were originally listed from the factory. Some years were light and most of the 89's were heavy depending on transmission and model. A couple of us got bounced out of N/SA when they made up a new weight for the 89 coupe. __________________ Brian Thompson NHRA Stock / Super Stock Class P/SA 6665 SS/MA 6665

02-06-2022, 05:45 PM	#10
Larry Hill Live Reporter Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hickory, Ky Posts: 10,627 Likes: 1,917 Liked 10,674 Times in 2,219 Posts	Re: Access to AMA Shipping Weights? Mr Joe now it figures 9.18 lbs per rated HP =C What I cant find in the AMA sheets and I've looked at 1967-1972 at all of the Ford stuff. I have yet to find a .527/.527 lift camshaft for the 428/360/335 engine. You would think it would be highlighted in yellow. __________________ IHM Used Parts https://ihmusedparts.com 888-821-1817 Last edited by Larry Hill; 02-06-2022 at 08:08 PM.