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Old 02-07-2022, 08:21 AM   #1
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I guess Dwight`s site has not updated this new development, but upon looking at the 70 Barracuda/Cuda page, couldn`t help but find it interesting, that unlike most other combos, both the 340 and 440 6 barrel combos are rated considerably LOWER with Edelbrock aluminum heads, than the factory iron heads. the AAR 340 3x2 is rated at 319HP with iron heads, and only 304 with the Edelbrocks, and the automatic 440 6bbl is 395 HP with iron, and 377(!) with Edelbrocks! Pretty sweet deal, the Edelbrock heads allow the car to weigh 150 pounds less than iron. Any other combos get less HP with aftermarket heads? They must be a real awful "upgrade".
Ya know, I was under the impression that when this whole thing went down you had the option of using the "easier to find" aftermarket heads BUT with a 10 HP penalty!
Some how, the Mopar aftermarket heads were allowed to become a separate combo and are now judged by themselves. Probably had something to do with a prior NTD.

Hey, maybe the new guy in charge should have a look at straightening this mess out.
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Old 02-07-2022, 08:32 AM   #2
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The heads came with a penalty of Hp. The current Hp is correct
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Old 02-07-2022, 09:05 AM   #3
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In my case (1980 Aspen RT) it’s unlikely any weight change will impact my preferred class. So I complete the online tech card and it pre-populates the card for the next event, so now I have to verify before every event that my shipping weight and P/W numbers haven’t been mysteriously updated by NHRA which would technically mean I could submit an incorrect card? Completely expect that NHRA Comp page should be updated anytime a platform is changed. Hello, Lonnie?
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Old 02-07-2022, 09:15 AM   #4
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When you go to a store to buy milk and price is marked $2.50, at check out the milk rings up at $3.75. The purchase is made and latter consumed but the sour taste of the milk lasts forever. The best surprise is no surprise.
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Old 02-07-2022, 09:38 AM   #5
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When you go to a store to buy milk and price is marked $2.50, at check out the milk rings up at $3.75. The purchase is made and latter consumed but the sower taste of the milk lasts forever. The best surprise is no surprise.
No, they're NOT correct!
We were SOLD the aftermarket head premise based on the fact that you could use the aftermarket head with a 10 HP weight penalty based on the factor of the correct iron head. This is now being treated as if the aluminum head is an entirely different combo, which it's not.
It was never SOLD to us as being a different combo. It HAS been re-constituted and FED to us in this way.

Here I go "hi-jacking" another one of your threads, sorry Buddy.
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Billy I always try to go by the rules as written. I dont think you're hijacking anything.
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Billy I always try to go by the rules as written. I dont think you're hijacking anything.
It's a funny thing!
If you look at a Rule Book or go on-line and look at a Rule Book, the "rules" regarding aftermarket aluminum heads aren't written down anywhere.
Must be written in the Super Top Secret Tech Inspector Only Rule Book!
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Old 02-07-2022, 10:56 AM   #8
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Billy, regarding the whole aluminum head deal, supposedly the aftermarket heads were allowed because supposedly usable production castings were getting hard to find. Considering the majority of the "allowed" heads were made in huge numbers, it seems odd to me that guys were having trouble scrounging up SB & BB Chevy castings, SB and FE Ford heads, SB & BB MoPar wedge heads, yet the guys with truly rare heads, like the 413 and 426 Max Wedge guys somehow manage to able to carry on. Just seems a bit odd. Maybe as a guy whose combination was not blessed with aftermarket heads,(or intake manifold), at least for Stock, I am somewhat skeptical .
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