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Maybe he meant it to be as such, but he simply said "it helps the entire LT1 combo avoid heads-up runs and HP adjustments" which I contend that is not true. The head's up runs are not limited to the same combo they could be any combination in your respective class as you know. That was why I answered that the more classes a LT1 can compete in the greater odds of a heads up run with one of the other combos and it would affect the entire LT1 family in both the Firebirds and Camaros if triggers are hit or the average is affected. |
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At that time, nobody had really done anything with one of these cars. Since I knew that Chevrolet wanted to build the COPO, I tried to get them to work with me to come up with an NHRA accepted rear suspension. My emails went unanswered. In 2011 I purchased a zero option 1 SS Camaro. It weighed around 3600 lbs. minus driver. At the PRI Show I crawled under the COPO and measured the rear suspension. I then went to Bruce at NHRA and worked with him to make it legal for the 2010 Camaro. I went home and built it. All the time sharing with Bruce. Before I got the car finished the whole COPO thing happened... In 2015 I ordered two new 2016 cars. I decided to park the 2012 because of it's unique history. That left the 2014. I reached out to Chevrolet about putting all the Camaros in the guide. They settled on the 2015. With all of the knowledge gained in those years it was obvious that a 2015 Camaro built within the current rules for Stock Eliminator would weigh around 2,800 lbs without driver. That's 1,100 lbs. from what you want and 800 lbs. from the 2012 car that I owned!! The decision was made to keep the ballast to no more than 500 lbs. That is the way the 2015 Camaro got to that weight. If the NHRA wants new cars in the Class guide, they have to make a weight concession for all of the stuff that can legally be removed. OK, that's my version of history. One day I'll share my story on the LS3 engine specs......
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4:2 Ballast Maximum amount of removable AND/OR permanent ballast, unless otherwise stated under Class Requirements, is 500 pounds. I've had discussions with a few Racers over the years, mainly Fox body FFFFord racers who have told me that they have more weight than that to get to legal wt. (I'm not picking on Fox body FFFFord combos, just trying to make a point) When you race a FWD combo this gets to be an issue in a hurry!
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2019 Challenger 1320 #3399 8.23 a nice natural A car that can make AA/A/B 2017 Challenger Hellcat #4500 7.50 natural AA car that can make A Same car, #1100 difference between the two? It couldn't just be that Mopar was picking-and-choosing classes could it? Larry, maybe you could ask your Mopar buddys about this (and your hood) and I'll find out about that .525 FFFFord cam.
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The 2019 Challenger 1320 looks, to me, to be where I would expect it to run. The Hellcat is one of those combinations that I will be shocked if anyone actually builds one!!
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My point being, how can two cars that are basically the same (body/chassis, hemi engine/trans/rear) be separated by 1100 pounds in weight other than the Hellcat needing to weigh 4500 lbs. to make it into Stock Eliminator?
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not the same cars at all.hellcat is a 6.2s/c car. 1320 is a 6.4n/a car.
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How much does that blower weigh???
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1000 lbs right............lol
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