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Old 06-04-2022, 09:22 PM   #1
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Is the thought process to reduce index by .1 makes more cars that could be hit with HP?
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Old 06-04-2022, 10:57 PM   #2
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Old 06-05-2022, 12:03 AM   #3
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I would rather not see the NHRA lower the indexes across the board. I know part of the whole “game” is picking the right combo, but it is safe to say that if I lose a tenth on the index, I will never be able to get it back, whereas some cars can easily go a tenth faster by either the tap of a keyboard, or turn of a wrench. I am trying to use as many of the “enhancements” given throughout the years that made many of these cars fast, but there are some combos out there, mainly in the bottom half of the alphabet, that no matter how much time or money you put into them, they will never be one second under players. I can and have played the game with getting a few hp back on the combo, but you have to purposely run the car slow to keep the average down. It was easy when I had a worn out engine, but pretty much counterintuitive at this point. Sorry if this sounds like a rant, but grouping all cars as being able to run faster with enough time or money is not really fair. I’ll see what a 3 speed will do for the car soon, but other than that, I’d have to find a better combination if I want to hang with combos much more responsive to the typical stocker techniques of today. That being said, the majority probably doesn’t really give a toss about slow stockers anyway. Rant over.
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Old 06-05-2022, 09:11 AM   #4
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Like Doug said, many, mostly "lower class" Stockers, do not , and can not , benefit from many of the "enhancements" that NHRA has been doling out to certain combinations in recent years. For many of the lower HP cars, there are no approved aluminum aftermarket cylinder heads, intake manifolds, carbs, etc available for their combinations. Not to mention that some people, actually like working within the limitations of the "crappy" components that their combination left the factory with. Certainly the enhancements have helped many racers, but not all, so it seems unfair that all the indexes should be reduced, when not all were gifted with "special" parts to improve their performance potential.
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How would you guys in the lower classes feel if they lowered the index's by .1 in cars from K up. Just a thought BP
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Old 06-05-2022, 10:40 AM   #6
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How would you guys in the lower classes feel if they lowered the index's by .1 in cars from K up. Just a thought BP
I think that wouldn’t be a bad idea. As long as the majority of racers in the effected classes were okay with it.
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Old 06-05-2022, 10:59 AM   #7
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I think that wouldn’t be a bad idea. As long as the majority of racers in the effected classes were okay with it.
Doug, I'm just trying to figure out a way that the 1970 402/375 Nova now 415 hp doesn't happen to other combo's. Heads up runs in the upper classes in great air can really screw up a combo. Not just in the A and B cars. One run just over the 1.20 mark and now and the Nova's had to add over 100lbs. A lot of weight for one run. I'm waiting for the 350/255 1969 Camaro's to get the hit. Several have danced around it. And that's not with running heads up. There are a lot of them maybe at that time people will get my point. BP
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Old 06-05-2022, 10:47 AM   #8
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How would you guys in the lower classes feel if they lowered the index's by .1 in cars from K up. Just a thought BP
How is that a good thing? There are lot of fast lower class cars.
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There are lot of fast lower class cars.
Wrong! There are a FEW fast lower class cars.
WAY out of proportion to the number of fast higher class cars.
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How is that a good thing? There are lot of fast lower class cars.
Actually, there are quite a few fast lower class combinations that are never going to get built.

1, They are perceived to be at a disadvantage in the eliminator

2, They can't be bubble - packed together.

Might as well deal with reality here.
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