The mines are now closed (AHFS) - Page 2

DG · 09-28-2022, 07:18 PM

"The decision to adjust horsepower or to reduce the index will be at the discretion of the NHRA Tech Department."

Only time will tell what this all means, but I think NHRA using their discretion, is going to become the norm. Its the way it was done in the past, now they have better data to base decisions.

MR DERBY CITY · 09-28-2022, 07:20 PM

You guys definitely lack reading skills…OPENS dont count, T and T doesn’t count, Jegs all star race doesn’t count, 1/8 mile doesn’t count ….It will be INTERESTING to see if INDY counts…..It appears that Mr. Worner COULD be the LAST racer to see an immediate HP penalty ….

SDT1DYI · 09-28-2022, 07:43 PM

I have not read the complete posting by NHRA in this regard.
"ALL RUNS COUNT" statement, my question is, does that include runs slower than the . 350 ?

Steve Teeter Stk/SS 620

Billy Nees · 09-28-2022, 07:43 PM

Does this mean that runs of -1.20 won't be torn down anymore?

MikeMoller · 09-28-2022, 07:56 PM

So those who got hp under old rules but would not have gotten hp under the new rules get kinda screwed.

09-28-2022, 08:00 PM

Sounds like they are going to look at every run. Maybe also different increments, not just 1/4 ET and MPH. Changing it up for the upcoming season interesting move by NHRA

james schaechter · 09-28-2022, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Does this mean that runs of -1.20 won't be torn down anymore?

Makes you wonder. Punish the index all year with a car that might not ever get looked at?

James Perrone · 09-28-2022, 08:11 PM

So if there is no instant horsepower for 120 under hit
Doesn’t it give the racer’s the chance to lower the average?
Doesn’t make sense

Mike Pearson · 09-28-2022, 08:23 PM

I wonder if they will bring back lowering HP on certain combos that are not competitive. The way it is now you can’t request HP reduction if it has ever received a hit in the past.

jamie2370 · 09-28-2022, 08:28 PM

About time. Bryan Worner would be loving this right now. But to listen to everyone whine about it being a performance based class then to whine when they allow you to run what you want without immediate penalties is crazy. YOU control what YOUR average is no matter what you run. I am sure there are some 350 tpi camaros that wish this was in place when an accidental 1.24 under completely killed the combo that is now a .8-.9 at best combo. As far as the illegal cars running the avg up.....all it takes is money and balls. Put up the protest money and have them torn down and deemed legal. Swallowing your pride does not cause indigestion. Quit whining about it and do something.

09-28-2022, 07:18 PM	#11
DG Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Central Sierra's Posts: 164 Likes: 437 Liked 446 Times in 97 Posts	Re: The mines are now closed (AHFS) "The decision to adjust horsepower or to reduce the index will be at the discretion of the NHRA Tech Department." Only time will tell what this all means, but I think NHRA using their discretion, is going to become the norm. Its the way it was done in the past, now they have better data to base decisions.

09-28-2022, 07:20 PM	#12
MR DERBY CITY VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Derby City, USA Posts: 3,568 Likes: 1,058 Liked 7,621 Times in 1,464 Posts	Re: The mines are now closed (AHFS) You guys definitely lack reading skills…OPENS dont count, T and T doesn’t count, Jegs all star race doesn’t count, 1/8 mile doesn’t count ….It will be INTERESTING to see if INDY counts…..It appears that Mr. Worner COULD be the LAST racer to see an immediate HP penalty ….

09-28-2022, 07:43 PM	#13
SDT1DYI Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Indianola Washington Posts: 396 Likes: 0 Liked 450 Times in 145 Posts	Re: The mines are now closed (AHFS) I have not read the complete posting by NHRA in this regard. "ALL RUNS COUNT" statement, my question is, does that include runs slower than the . 350 ? Steve Teeter Stk/SS 620

09-28-2022, 07:43 PM	#14
Billy Nees VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: On a hilltop in Pa. Posts: 4,473 Likes: 3,564 Liked 7,596 Times in 1,718 Posts	Re: The mines are now closed (AHFS) Does this mean that runs of -1.20 won't be torn down anymore? __________________ Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS I'm OK..........it's everybody else.

09-28-2022, 07:56 PM	#15
MikeMoller Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Raleigh NC Posts: 635 Likes: 27 Liked 254 Times in 78 Posts	Re: The mines are now closed (AHFS) So those who got hp under old rules but would not have gotten hp under the new rules get kinda screwed. __________________ Mike Moller NHRA 203 Q-R-T/SA Last edited by MikeMoller; 09-28-2022 at 07:58 PM.

09-28-2022, 08:00 PM	#16
Todd Hoven Guest Posts: n/a	Re: The mines are now closed (AHFS) Sounds like they are going to look at every run. Maybe also different increments, not just 1/4 ET and MPH. Changing it up for the upcoming season interesting move by NHRA

09-28-2022, 08:11 PM	#18
James Perrone VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: LONG ISLAND N.Y. Posts: 1,655 Likes: 3,318 Liked 1,777 Times in 416 Posts	Re: The mines are now closed (AHFS) So if there is no instant horsepower for 120 under hit Doesn’t it give the racer’s the chance to lower the average? Doesn’t make sense __________________ james perrone 1290 STK

09-28-2022, 08:23 PM	#19
Mike Pearson VIP Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,419 Likes: 598 Liked 1,885 Times in 564 Posts	Re: The mines are now closed (AHFS) I wonder if they will bring back lowering HP on certain combos that are not competitive. The way it is now you can’t request HP reduction if it has ever received a hit in the past. __________________ Mike Pearson 2485 SS

09-28-2022, 08:28 PM	#20
jamie2370 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Perry, GA Posts: 331 Likes: 11 Liked 239 Times in 90 Posts	Re: The mines are now closed (AHFS) About time. Bryan Worner would be loving this right now. But to listen to everyone whine about it being a performance based class then to whine when they allow you to run what you want without immediate penalties is crazy. YOU control what YOUR average is no matter what you run. I am sure there are some 350 tpi camaros that wish this was in place when an accidental 1.24 under completely killed the combo that is now a .8-.9 at best combo. As far as the illegal cars running the avg up.....all it takes is money and balls. Put up the protest money and have them torn down and deemed legal. Swallowing your pride does not cause indigestion. Quit whining about it and do something.