Hey Troy Huntzberry, Do The Right Thing!

Larry Hill · 10-17-2022, 03:48 PM

If the 302 car did not cross the center line or hit the wall and the opponent broke out and lost, Casey is the one advancing to round two according to the rules as I understand them. The racer that took it on the chin was the person that should have had a broke single due to Casey engine failure. In class racing a racer has to dial the index or quicker for the class the car is teched in as. Its the racer responsibility to check the dial in on being correct. If the dial is incorrect tell the starter and have it changed, if you stage the car you bought the race. I know first hand from a race in Noble, OK

james schaechter · 10-17-2022, 04:38 PM

This was 100% the DD’s decision.

Once the DD assesses the situation and makes the call, the racers are out of it.

Jim Wahl · 10-17-2022, 05:07 PM

The DD can not over rule the RULE BOOK! There are too many case histories on this. Both drivers accepted the dials on the board. That's the rule. That's why they are in the rule book, to make decisions by. Case over. The DD has no clue what the book says. Jim

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Steve Stasko · 10-17-2022, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by james schaechter

This was 100% the DD’s decision.

Once the DD assesses the situation and makes the call, the racers are out of it.

This is exactly what I was thinking. I had an instance at an NHRA track last year where my car died when I got on the 2-step. The other guy was spotting me about 2/10ths. His tree dropped, and he proceeded to run under. I fired my car, took the green, and drove it down but did not complete the run (turned off just after the 1/8th mile). Time slip showed me as the winner. The track owner asked me if I planned on coming up for the next round, otherwise he was going to reinstate the other car.

Larry Hill · 10-17-2022, 05:19 PM

NHRA needs to read and understand the Rule Book under Section 2 Race Procedures as written.

Part quote from Rule Book Section 2. Break Out rules: Contestants who race below the posted index or category standard during eliminations are disqualified, with the following exceptions:

1) when an opponent foul starts or crosses a boundary line

2) on a single run

3) when both cars run under their index, the driver who is least under is the winner

4) when two cars of the same class race (doesn't apply to Super categories)

5) two drivers under by same amount the racer crossing wins

It's a Rule Book that we all play by, its not a Suggestion Manual.

Rules applied in a fair, firm, and friendly manner make the sport fun for all participants.

Billy Nees · 10-17-2022, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Larry Hill

Rules applied in a fair, firm, and friendly manner make the sport fun for all participants.

Wishful thinking in today's day-and-age!

James Perrone · 10-17-2022, 06:31 PM

Maybe division director ordered a rerun as both index were displayed ?
That would make sense .

Dragrac419 · 10-17-2022, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by James Perrone

Maybe division director ordered a rerun as both index were displayed ?
That would make sense .

That would be the wrong call as once you stage you own the dial in. Jim should have gotten the competition bye the second round. Agree this was a bad call on the DD. Lucky if my calculations are correct to did not effect anyone in the top 10 points.

Frank Castros · 10-17-2022, 07:40 PM

What in God's name is going on at these races.
D7 and D2 shame!
D6 is like a secret society.
I don't recall seeing this crap in D1, D3 and D4 or am I wrong?

442OLDS · 10-17-2022, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Frank Castros

What in God's name is going on at these races.
D7 and D2 shame!
D6 is like a secret society.
I don't recall seeing this crap in D1, D3 and D4 or am I wrong?

There were a few questionable things in D3 too,but I guess we just keep it to ourselves.

10-17-2022, 03:48 PM	#1
Larry Hill Live Reporter Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hickory, Ky Posts: 10,650 Likes: 1,943 Liked 10,769 Times in 2,238 Posts	Re: Hey Troy Huntzberry, Do The Right Thing! If the 302 car did not cross the center line or hit the wall and the opponent broke out and lost, Casey is the one advancing to round two according to the rules as I understand them. The racer that took it on the chin was the person that should have had a broke single due to Casey engine failure. In class racing a racer has to dial the index or quicker for the class the car is teched in as. Its the racer responsibility to check the dial in on being correct. If the dial is incorrect tell the starter and have it changed, if you stage the car you bought the race. I know first hand from a race in Noble, OK __________________ IHM Used Parts https://ihmusedparts.com 888-821-1817

10-17-2022, 04:38 PM	#2
james schaechter VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cumming GA Posts: 1,992 Likes: 1,293 Liked 1,436 Times in 299 Posts	Re: Hey Troy Huntzberry, Do The Right Thing! This was 100% the DD’s decision. Once the DD assesses the situation and makes the call, the racers are out of it. __________________ James Schaechter 3163 STK

10-17-2022, 05:07 PM	#3
Jim Wahl Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Central Florida Posts: 5,844 Likes: 668 Liked 683 Times in 129 Posts	Re: Hey Troy Huntzberry, Do The Right Thing! The DD can not over rule the RULE BOOK! There are too many case histories on this. Both drivers accepted the dials on the board. That's the rule. That's why they are in the rule book, to make decisions by. Case over. The DD has no clue what the book says. Jim . __________________ Jim Wahl....NHRA #2239 S/SS - IHRA # 8 Stock, D2 Stock Champion (forever I guess) 2019 Baby Gators Stock Champion 2009 NHRA D2 National Open Stock Champion 1982 NHRA D2 West Palm Beach LDRS SS Runner Up Past President, Southern Stock / Super Stock Association.

10-17-2022, 05:19 PM	#5
Larry Hill Live Reporter Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hickory, Ky Posts: 10,650 Likes: 1,943 Liked 10,769 Times in 2,238 Posts	Re: Hey Troy Huntzberry, Do The Right Thing! NHRA needs to read and understand the Rule Book under Section 2 Race Procedures as written. Part quote from Rule Book Section 2. Break Out rules: Contestants who race below the posted index or category standard during eliminations are disqualified, with the following exceptions: 1) when an opponent foul starts or crosses a boundary line 2) on a single run 3) when both cars run under their index, the driver who is least under is the winner 4) when two cars of the same class race (doesn't apply to Super categories) 5) two drivers under by same amount the racer crossing wins It's a Rule Book that we all play by, its not a Suggestion Manual. Rules applied in a fair, firm, and friendly manner make the sport fun for all participants. __________________ IHM Used Parts https://ihmusedparts.com 888-821-1817

10-17-2022, 06:31 PM	#7
James Perrone VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: LONG ISLAND N.Y. Posts: 1,683 Likes: 3,395 Liked 1,829 Times in 427 Posts	Re: Hey Troy Huntzberry, Do The Right Thing! Maybe division director ordered a rerun as both index were displayed ? That would make sense . __________________ james perrone 1290 STK

10-17-2022, 07:40 PM	#9
Frank Castros VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The Lowcountry. Posts: 2,984 Likes: 2,610 Liked 2,737 Times in 965 Posts	Re: Hey Troy Huntzberry, Do The Right Thing! What in God's name is going on at these races. D7 and D2 shame! D6 is like a secret society. I don't recall seeing this crap in D1, D3 and D4 or am I wrong?