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Old 11-03-2022, 06:08 PM   #1
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Bubski is like WTF !! At no time did Bubski say going back to the old rules would level the field !! Bubski is well aware of those that have the resources will always come out on top !! Money , contacts , and determination, etc !! Will always prevail !! What Bubski is saying !! " Lets bring back the STOCK to STOCK ELIMINATOR " NHRA has in the past reeled in the Pros to limit their performance !! And now its time to reel in the sportsmen !! 180-200 on the seat is laughable !! Most of the older engines were under a 100 to a little over a 100 on the seat !! How about a 10% increase from the old tech sheets across the board on seat and open pressures ?? Everyone now gets the same thing !! Remember !! Besides from bringing Stock into Stock !! Its not any good to race in Stock if you can't get the parts to show up and race !! Going back to what always worked before must be better than starting from scratch with a bunch of Hi Dollar parts that are not in the Spirit of Stock !! More like SS
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Old 11-03-2022, 06:29 PM   #2
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Machine at PPPC is not fixed. I was there this morning. Have plenty of raw material to work with but no machine to operate. Also the operator didn't know when it would be fixed
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Old 11-03-2022, 06:40 PM   #3
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Machine at PPPC is not fixed. I was there this morning. Have plenty of raw material to work with but no machine to operate. Also the operator didn't know when it would be fixed
Two simple questions 1. This has been said for months now ,I was told it was the computer that needs repair
2. How many back orders are there
If I/we can get the answers it may indicate the likelihood if I/we ever see our lifter orders filled , case in point if it is 1 or 2 orders pending then the chances are slim to none
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Old 11-03-2022, 07:20 PM   #4
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One of the many issues is the quality of the lifter, especially, materials and sizing. The sizing problem creates issues with lifter bore clearance and also when the lifter does not have a crown and the lobe does not have a taper.

It does not matter if the valve spring pressures are restored to the old rules. Too may engine builders are seeing camshaft and lifter failures even on mild street builds.

There is only one lifter manufacturer for solid and hydraulic lifters left in the USA.
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180-200 on the seat is laughable !!
Ya know, just when I was starting to kind of like you! There's no way that we are going to go back to OEM valve springs. It would be too much for too many combos to absorb and NHRA has proven time-and-time again that it's not going to allow combos to be turned into trash overnight (lawsuits?).
Knowing what some smallblock Stockers are running for spring pressures now, I thought that 180-200 would be an acceptable (and easy to police) compromise.
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