BIG $$$ Race

[Ron Ortiz]

They both pay money to race.
They both put a number on the car.
They both go down the track.
How are they different.

Win $50,000
R/U $20,000
Semi $7,500
1/4 $4,000
7th Rd $2,500
6th Rd $2,000
5th Rd $1,500
4th Rd $1,000
3rd Rd $500

Entry $999. 3 days @ $50,000 + $20,000 warm up race, that is 4 events per week

What does a National event that takes 4 days pay out? What is the entry fee?
Tell me again why it won't work for Stk SS.

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Ron Ortiz

Tell me again why it won't work for Stk SS.

Good question Ron! But, historically it never does work.

[MR DERBY CITY]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Good question Ron! But, historically it never does work.

YO KEN , Kenny works his tail off ,plans the race, secures sponsor give away prizes,great payout, has the race at Numidia , and a very disappointing crowd shows up ….

[Ron Ortiz]

Seems to be a lot of different reasons, but am I missing something here.

NHRA $2,000 + contingencies to win. SFG. $50,000 to win
4 days = 1 race. 4 days = 4 races
No Buybacks. Buyback. I don't like buybacks either
If you're racing for $50K why not

Mike Pearson is right on.
Mike Gray lack of grade points. I know, I need at least 6 points to enter a race in my home state, so I have to travel to several states to get points.
442 OLDS with the talented drivers there, qualifying is of little importance, try surviving.
Roy Kinslow, great idea, could be easily done, need to get ahold of SFG to see. Motor Mania TV would be included.
Sure there are a lot of reasons, but if you look around drag racing is not as such a big deal as it was a decade ago. Atlanta, Houston, W Palm Bch are examples of what is happening. Soon, the people with their noses up in the air will only be remembering when they could.
But what do I know, I'm building a Stocker when tracks are closing, fuel is sky high, and the payouts are similar to 1990. As a side note, for the SFG races it appears you can win with a .030 light and be a hundred off. But there is a better chance of needing a double oh light and be dead on within 8. It's brutal out there, but you just need to beat the other person in the other lane.

[ken robinson]

One of the problems I have is with the disturbing trend of 1/8 & 1000 racing in the bracket racing world . It was all 1/4 mile racing growing up . Sorry I like 1/4 racing . What's fun about doing something half way ? The buy back was something you just live with . It's good seat time & you meet some new car people.

[James Perrone]

It’s a shame that stock and super stock racers will not support a big $ race
Sheeeeet most of the racers that complain about lack of prize $ won’t support local Stock and SS associations racing that pays back 90% of the $
Dave Lay has 5 race schedule at Atco and on Saturday we get 60 or so car them Sunday we get a little more than half the racers
Makes no sense
We race for good $ for $100 entry
And we race in New Jersey Atco
Where are all you cry baby local class racers ?
What’s your excuse people?
No Wally. Really

[1347]

Most class racers don't like 1/8th mile racing. Even if they had an NHRA race with 1/8th mile racing, most wouldn't go. Remember the grove race when we sat in the rain and 3 days later we went to 1/8th mile, alot pulled out. The next year, even people who stayed the year before went up to Dave Mohn as we sat in the rain and said if he was even thinking of 1/8 mile they were pulling out.

Our cars aren't built for those races, at least my car isn't. Most of the good bracket cars that run money races are big tire, big block, high mph cars with power glides. If we manage to go late in the rounds with those races, we can't cool our cars down or transmissions. When I ran the consolation race at the Classracer race, they were calling us back before I got my time ticket the last 3 rounds. My battery was dead with no alternator, my filled block was 30 degrees hotter even using my chiller with fresh water, and when I Ran Ronnie Morehead and puked trans fluid on the track, my trans was almost 300 degrees and I pushed the front pump gasket out from the heat.

another problem is the amount of weekends we race and the amount of runs some engines can go. I raced 7 divisionals, 2 opens, the classracer weekend, 5 Dave Ley races, Indy, the Sportnationals, and the Keystones. My engine is used up, and my vacation time and wallet was also. I dont really have a race that I could say I would have missed to spend 1000.00 and buybacks (another hangup) on a bracket race.

James, I agree, I don't know why more people don't attend the ECSSA races at Atco, it's a great race, great payout, and a chance to race and practice against some heavy hitters. I consider Daves races and the Classracer race my extent of non NHRA races. The Tyler Bohannan race is the same weekend as the Atco points race. I doubt many div1 racers will travel to his race instead of going to Atco that weekend.

[james schaechter]

Originally Posted by Ron Ortiz

They both pay money to race.
They both put a number on the car.
They both go down the track.
How are they different.

Win $50,000
R/U $20,000
Semi $7,500
1/4 $4,000
7th Rd $2,500
6th Rd $2,000
5th Rd $1,500
4th Rd $1,000
3rd Rd $500

Entry $999. 3 days @ $50,000 + $20,000 warm up race, that is 4 events per week

What does a National event that takes 4 days pay out? What is the entry fee?
Tell me again why it won't work for Stk SS.

Simply because the majority of the class racers that whine about not having a big money race don’t show when there is one. When one comes up, the excuses start flying. They just don’t show.

[Jim Wahl]

Originally Posted by james schaechter

Simply because the majority of the class racers that whine about not having a big money race don’t show when there is one. When one comes up, the excuses start flying. They just don’t show.

Hello!! Ding-Ding!! We have a winner! Thank you James! Jim


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[442OLDS]

Originally Posted by Ron Ortiz

They both pay money to race.
They both put a number on the car.
They both go down the track.
How are they different.

Win $50,000
R/U $20,000
Semi $7,500
1/4 $4,000
7th Rd $2,500
6th Rd $2,000
5th Rd $1,500
4th Rd $1,000
3rd Rd $500

Entry $999. 3 days @ $50,000 + $20,000 warm up race, that is 4 events per week

What does a National event that takes 4 days pay out? What is the entry fee?
Tell me again why it won't work for Stk SS.

Those big payouts are dependent on buybacks and double entries. Most Stock and Super Stock racers don't like buybacks including myself.
Then,if you don't have heads up races,half the people wouldn't show up.
If you have heads up races,the other half would not show up.
If you have more than 128,people would complain it's too easy to qualify.