NHRA At It Again

Billy Hampton · 01-13-2023, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Billy Nees

This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^is not MY problem! As A member/associate/business partner/investor (pick whichever one you're comfortable with) I SHOULD BE entitled to the same privileges as any other dues paying person/Racer. Maybe it's time for them to stop hiding their dog-and-pony show behind the guise of a not-for-profit!

Exactly my point. 100% agree.

PONTIAC'S REVENGE · 01-14-2023, 06:15 PM

Too late for 70 on the gators?

tstickff · 01-14-2023, 09:59 PM

Good thing they increased the quota for Arizona, it’s going on the second week and it’s got a whole 28 cars entered in stock! Good thing they were quick with the computer!

Tim Stickles

Larry Hill · 01-15-2023, 10:44 AM

While we ask for NHRA to expand our quotas for a heavily attended on the east coast that filled in 180 seconds NHRA raised the quota to 70 in Az. After a week S/S and Stock are less than half full for the Az race. So will NHRA officials say we raised the quota and us races did not support them?

James Perrone · 01-15-2023, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Larry Hill

While we ask for NHRA to expand our quotas for a heavily attended on the east coast that filled in 180 seconds NHRA raised the quota to 70 in Az. After a week S/S and Stock are less than half full for the Az race. So will NHRA officials say we raised the quota and us races did not support them?

Exactly. Not needed at that race.
Customer base East of Mississippi is where the big fields are
And they will say we raised the entry and know one showed. Right On

Lenny5160 · 01-15-2023, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Larry Hill

While we ask for NHRA to expand our quotas for a heavily attended on the east coast that filled in 180 seconds NHRA raised the quota to 70 in Az. After a week S/S and Stock are less than half full for the Az race. So will NHRA officials say we raised the quota and us races did not support them?

If a race fills at 8, it reflects criminal behavior by NHRA.

If the race doesn’t fill at 7, it shows a complete lack of interest.

01-15-2023, 12:45 PM

Weather is a big factor in March there. I’m sure that plays a role plus huge travel time and 800 miles - 12-13 hours from here.

Only having one divisional in Ca pretty much sucks!

From NHRA

National event quotas: How and why they're set
One of the many important duties of NHRA’s Racing Administration department is the setting of class quotas at NHRA national events. Deciding on the number of entrants per class and in total takes into account many factors that reflect the current environment of the events, including historical data, the size of facility, television broadcast times, track and local curfews, weather history, the size and number of haulers, and past on-site experience. Despite quotas being set, at many events already this year racing has run well into the evening or NHRA officials were forced to reduce the number of qualifying passes to time constraints.

Below are some examples of the challenges:

Facility size: In many situations we are limited on the amount of entries we can accept due to overall size of the facility. In Gainesville, approximately 20 teams were parked in the spectator lot.

Live TV: With the move to FS1 and 17 live TV shows changes are made to ensure that segments of racing meet time slots set by FOX.

Curfews/weather: Based on a growing population around many of the facilities, curfews have been established, which limits the amount of time that race cars can be run. That challenge is made tougher early and late in the season when cool weather conditions can produce conditions that are not ideal.

Size of haulers: Over the past several years, the size of haulers have grown, which limits the amount of useable space to have additional cars on property.

NHRA strives to deliver the best experience possible to everyone attending a national event, and the ability to do so is challenged when NHRA is forced to park racers in spectator parking, schedules force us to run late into the evening under conditions that are not ideal, which is why the establishment and enforcement of quotas is so important.

TBear5033 · 01-15-2023, 02:23 PM

Below are some examples of the challenges:

Facility size: In many situations we are limited on the amount of entries we can accept due to overall size of the facility. In Gainesville, approximately 20 teams were parked in the spectator lot.

Funny... I've attended the bot the Gator Nationals and Baby Gators in 2020, 2021 and 2022. There has only been 1 time in the 6 races that I saw racers parked in the spectator area - last year at the Gator Nationals. Racers moved out of the traditional pit area to avoid the swamp created by poor drainage after the monsoon rainstorm earlier in the weekend. There was still plenty of room of all racers in the traditional pit area for more rigs even before these racers moved.

Too bad the sale of Atlanta Dragway that was supposed to fund improvements at Gainesville hasn't actually happened to improve the drainage in the back pit area.

I'm not bashing NHRA or their reasons for setting quotes where they do. Several of their arguments are legit and well justified... I just hate it when facts get misconstrued or cherry-picked and end up being leveraged inappropriately.

01-14-2023, 06:15 PM	#2
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01-15-2023, 12:45 PM	#7
Barry Polley Guest Posts: n/a	Re: NHRA At It Again Weather is a big factor in March there. I’m sure that plays a role plus huge travel time and 800 miles - 12-13 hours from here. Only having one divisional in Ca pretty much sucks! From NHRA National event quotas: How and why they're set One of the many important duties of NHRA’s Racing Administration department is the setting of class quotas at NHRA national events. Deciding on the number of entrants per class and in total takes into account many factors that reflect the current environment of the events, including historical data, the size of facility, television broadcast times, track and local curfews, weather history, the size and number of haulers, and past on-site experience. Despite quotas being set, at many events already this year racing has run well into the evening or NHRA officials were forced to reduce the number of qualifying passes to time constraints. Below are some examples of the challenges: Facility size: In many situations we are limited on the amount of entries we can accept due to overall size of the facility. In Gainesville, approximately 20 teams were parked in the spectator lot. Live TV: With the move to FS1 and 17 live TV shows changes are made to ensure that segments of racing meet time slots set by FOX. Curfews/weather: Based on a growing population around many of the facilities, curfews have been established, which limits the amount of time that race cars can be run. That challenge is made tougher early and late in the season when cool weather conditions can produce conditions that are not ideal. Size of haulers: Over the past several years, the size of haulers have grown, which limits the amount of useable space to have additional cars on property. NHRA strives to deliver the best experience possible to everyone attending a national event, and the ability to do so is challenged when NHRA is forced to park racers in spectator parking, schedules force us to run late into the evening under conditions that are not ideal, which is why the establishment and enforcement of quotas is so important. Last edited by Barry Polley; 01-15-2023 at 12:49 PM. Reason: Quota NHRA

01-15-2023, 02:23 PM	#8
TBear5033 Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: Louisburg, KS Posts: 32 Likes: 6 Liked 112 Times in 16 Posts	Re: NHRA At It Again Below are some examples of the challenges: Facility size: In many situations we are limited on the amount of entries we can accept due to overall size of the facility. In Gainesville, approximately 20 teams were parked in the spectator lot. Funny... I've attended the bot the Gator Nationals and Baby Gators in 2020, 2021 and 2022. There has only been 1 time in the 6 races that I saw racers parked in the spectator area - last year at the Gator Nationals. Racers moved out of the traditional pit area to avoid the swamp created by poor drainage after the monsoon rainstorm earlier in the weekend. There was still plenty of room of all racers in the traditional pit area for more rigs even before these racers moved. Too bad the sale of Atlanta Dragway that was supposed to fund improvements at Gainesville hasn't actually happened to improve the drainage in the back pit area. I'm not bashing NHRA or their reasons for setting quotes where they do. Several of their arguments are legit and well justified... I just hate it when facts get misconstrued or cherry-picked and end up being leveraged inappropriately.