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Old 03-01-2023, 09:43 AM   #1
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Where I believe this is heading is towards a true performance based heads up system after this is "sorted out" in a year or two. So instead of class only heads up runs, ALL of eliminations can be heads up runs. Isn't this the way it should be anyway? Bobby F, Your thoughts? You should be rewarded for choosing the best car for the best class and doing the best you can at building it.
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Old 03-01-2023, 10:51 AM   #2
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They need to eliminate the AHFS for all class run offs. It has nothing to do with points. It’s what heads up class racing is about. Who has the fastest. Not who can figure out the best way to slow their car down. Put the fun in class run offs. I know racers that have the best parts, spent tons of cash to have a fast car and will still not run fast in class eliminations due to the present rules. And I don’t blame them. Just my opinion.
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Old 03-01-2023, 11:48 AM   #3
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Old 03-01-2023, 11:58 AM   #4
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Not that I disagree with you but when do they run fast? Why have a fast car and never run it to its potential? Is it just the hopes of going to a National Open or an Allstar race with no AHFS to go fast. I would be skeptical of record runs at those races. Do they tear down at those events?
Maybe a way to speed up the AHFS is to eliminate dial under ( It’s not bracket racing) run off the index which will be like heads up and cause the AHFS to adjust the combo’s much quicker. If the thought is only the big money fast cars will win it should only be short lived as the hp adjustments should bring them back to the field.
They do tear downs at D1 opens every time a record is set in Canada.Seen it done many times.
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Old 03-01-2023, 12:04 PM   #5
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I was at Firebird Raceway near Boise and watched class run offs last year. It is run off the class index and is fun to watch, I stand about the 1200 foot mark. I will be there again this year and plan on seeing some great racing. See you all there.
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Old 03-01-2023, 12:51 PM   #6
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I don't often post here but I have a question. What would be the problem with making the review trigger for two runs at -1.1 instead of -1.0. Even after seeing the first couple of races this year it is pretty clear to me the recent changes made to the AHFS are not the answer. Cars are running slower. They did increase the instant trigger to -1.3.
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Old 03-01-2023, 01:24 PM   #7
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I don't often post here but I have a question. What would be the problem with making the review trigger for two runs at -1.1 instead of -1.0. Even after seeing the first couple of races this year it is pretty clear to me the recent changes made to the AHFS are not the answer. Cars are running slower. They did increase the instant trigger to -1.3.
The fast run triggers the amount of HP you get. The glory will be very short lived for some as by year end they will be moving a class. There is a rule in place and it will be way too late for some to see the value in .70 under runs. I hate to quote Al Corda again but it is free to pay attention

Under Index Horsepower Increase

1.000-1.099 1.25% 1.00 under

1.100-1.199 2.25% 1.10 under

1.200-1.249 3.25%

1.250-1.299 4.25%
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