Factory Stock Showdown

Dyno · 03-11-2023, 02:43 PM

I think NHRA originally listed the field at 16 cars. The only 32 car field in the past was the US Nationals. Good move by NHRA to run Gainesville as a 32 car field so everyone entered can run the eliminator! Dyno

Charles Stewart · 03-13-2023, 01:47 PM

Is it just me or the majority of the FS Showdown have their nose up in their run all along the quarter mile except Joe Welch 2015 Challenger and Jonathan Allegrucci 2019 Mustang run a much forward rake attitude all along their runs ?

jmcarter · 03-13-2023, 02:38 PM

I was wondering about the rake on Joe’s car but when I saw how loose he got down track in the semifinals one has to wonder. With the MPH he’s running a “parity adjustment”‘might be coming.

Lenny5160_v2 · 03-13-2023, 05:31 PM

The tree fired 24 times in this class, and there were MAYBE three competitive races?

The premise of the class is good, but is it working?

kirk · 03-14-2023, 09:13 AM

I also noticed the rake on Welch's car, and noticed he was only Dodge running the later style front spoiler. Once he gets it moving it's a rocket. I am guessing at those speeds they are looking at doing something (NHRA).. next couple races will be interesting

James Perrone · 03-14-2023, 09:35 AM

Well he’s car leaves like a275 drag radial car
275 radial car only race to 1/8 mile
1/4. Mile unknown territory
My buddy who’d owe a lot of grudge racing showed me this set up 5 years ago
It’s the opposite of what we do

Charles Stewart · 03-14-2023, 09:35 AM

The coefficient of friction of the frontal area of Welch's Challenger may affect in a positive way the MPH...
Look like the foward rake seem to become at level attitude during the run which give an advantage over the "nose up attitude of others FSS".
It's just my opinion...

JRyan · 03-14-2023, 09:52 AM

It definitely leaves like a radial tire car for sure. They do run 1/4 mile at the World Cup race in Maryland in the fall. Been a few incredibly fast radial cars deep into the 6's there that get down. But you do see them tend to be a little loose up top.

Rick Ryan

Bent Valve · 03-14-2023, 10:22 AM

If I recall Welsh got bounced a few years ago for a rear suspension issue. Maybe he has figured out some new settings to get the car to leave like a small tire no prep car. Sure looks like it.

jmcarter · 03-14-2023, 10:37 AM

Watching his semifinal run I’d have to pass, looked more like adrenaline rush than the thrill of victory. Plus now he’ll get the parity hammer.

03-11-2023, 02:43 PM	#1
Dyno Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 915 Likes: 1,134 Liked 682 Times in 203 Posts	Factory Stock Showdown I think NHRA originally listed the field at 16 cars. The only 32 car field in the past was the US Nationals. Good move by NHRA to run Gainesville as a 32 car field so everyone entered can run the eliminator! Dyno

03-13-2023, 01:47 PM	#2
Charles Stewart Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 389 Likes: 1,655 Liked 753 Times in 213 Posts	Re: Factory Stock Showdown Is it just me or the majority of the FS Showdown have their nose up in their run all along the quarter mile except Joe Welch 2015 Challenger and Jonathan Allegrucci 2019 Mustang run a much forward rake attitude all along their runs ?

03-13-2023, 02:38 PM	#3
jmcarter VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Richmond Hill GA (and Port Ludlow WA) Posts: 4,295 Likes: 2,379 Liked 3,174 Times in 971 Posts	Re: Factory Stock Showdown I was wondering about the rake on Joe’s car but when I saw how loose he got down track in the semifinals one has to wonder. With the MPH he’s running a “parity adjustment”‘might be coming. __________________ Jim Carter 2340 Super Stock 2340 SST/2340 Stock Set another place at the table

03-13-2023, 05:31 PM	#4
Lenny5160_v2 Member Join Date: Feb 2023 Location: Inver Grove Heights, MN Posts: 174 Likes: 465 Liked 218 Times in 94 Posts	Re: Factory Stock Showdown The tree fired 24 times in this class, and there were MAYBE three competitive races? The premise of the class is good, but is it working? __________________ Tony Leonard S/ST 56 S/C 53 Last edited by Lenny5160_v2; 03-13-2023 at 05:40 PM. Reason: Original wording may be offensive to some; not my intent.

03-14-2023, 09:13 AM	#5
kirk Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Kalamazoo Michigan Posts: 34 Likes: 2 Liked 5 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Factory Stock Showdown I also noticed the rake on Welch's car, and noticed he was only Dodge running the later style front spoiler. Once he gets it moving it's a rocket. I am guessing at those speeds they are looking at doing something (NHRA).. next couple races will be interesting

03-14-2023, 09:35 AM	#6
James Perrone VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: LONG ISLAND N.Y. Posts: 1,674 Likes: 3,372 Liked 1,805 Times in 423 Posts	Re: Factory Stock Showdown Well he’s car leaves like a275 drag radial car 275 radial car only race to 1/8 mile 1/4. Mile unknown territory My buddy who’d owe a lot of grudge racing showed me this set up 5 years ago It’s the opposite of what we do __________________ james perrone 1290 STK

03-14-2023, 09:35 AM	#7
Charles Stewart Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 389 Likes: 1,655 Liked 753 Times in 213 Posts	Re: Factory Stock Showdown The coefficient of friction of the frontal area of Welch's Challenger may affect in a positive way the MPH... Look like the foward rake seem to become at level attitude during the run which give an advantage over the "nose up attitude of others FSS". It's just my opinion...

03-14-2023, 09:52 AM	#8
JRyan Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aberdeen SD Posts: 645 Likes: 30 Liked 112 Times in 31 Posts	Re: Factory Stock Showdown It definitely leaves like a radial tire car for sure. They do run 1/4 mile at the World Cup race in Maryland in the fall. Been a few incredibly fast radial cars deep into the 6's there that get down. But you do see them tend to be a little loose up top. Rick Ryan

03-14-2023, 10:22 AM	#9
Bent Valve Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Posts: 29 Likes: 63 Liked 32 Times in 12 Posts	Re: Factory Stock Showdown If I recall Welsh got bounced a few years ago for a rear suspension issue. Maybe he has figured out some new settings to get the car to leave like a small tire no prep car. Sure looks like it.

03-14-2023, 10:37 AM	#10
jmcarter VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Richmond Hill GA (and Port Ludlow WA) Posts: 4,295 Likes: 2,379 Liked 3,174 Times in 971 Posts	Re: Factory Stock Showdown Watching his semifinal run I’d have to pass, looked more like adrenaline rush than the thrill of victory. Plus now he’ll get the parity hammer. __________________ Jim Carter 2340 Super Stock 2340 SST/2340 Stock Set another place at the table