Joe Newbie, 20 Builds a "Stocker"' in 2023

Billy Nees · 08-19-2023, 07:26 AM

Ya know, there's a "newbie" who happens to be a member of a prominent racing family in Div. 3 and is just getting things sorted out. This prominent racing family doesn't post much on here but maybe they could make an exception and make some helpful comments OR maybe even start a "build" thread?

Mark Yacavone · 08-19-2023, 12:39 PM

Getting close now...

NB> Hey, I'm running out of cash here. I see some 1 and 5/8 " headers on Summit. I think I'll get them with my credit card and add some collector extensions. What do you think?
VR> You should be able to run under the index with them, but 283s really react well to a good header. Maybe a step deal with merge collectors, or a set of stainless Tri /Y's ..Eventually you'll want to go that way..

NB maxes out his credit card for a fuel pump, gas line , fuel pressure gauge , sample valve, tach, oil and water gauges, line lock, two gas jugs, and a low pressure tire gauge.

The guys put the car all together, fire it up , break in the cam with some borrowed 1.3 rockers. Sounds great.

There's a rumor out there that the local track will be opening for some Friday night T&T action, so we wait...

TBC

Dave Muller · 08-20-2023, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Getting close now...

Hmmm, I thought those pictures looked familiar!

MR DERBY CITY · 08-20-2023, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Muller

Hmmm, I thought those pictures looked familiar!

WOW ! And the reason you have that LARGE harmonic balancer on the engine is …..

Dave Muller · 08-20-2023, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY

WOW ! And the reason you have that LARGE harmonic balancer on the engine is …..

Yeah, sadly, I didn't really think about it at the time.

MR DERBY CITY · 08-20-2023, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Muller

Yeah, sadly, I didn't really think about it at the time.

Just kinda jumped out at me , the factory balancers were so small …

Mark Yacavone · 08-20-2023, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY

Just kinda jumped out at me , the factory balancers were so small …

It was an approved unit from Summit and the price was right.
Not sure now, but I think it was Wade Owens who told me they tried a little tiny hub, instead, and didn't see anything :-O

Stan Weiss · 08-20-2023, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY

WOW ! And the reason you have that LARGE harmonic balancer on the engine is …..

Didn't Chevy put a larger one on the 327ci 365HP and 375HP engines in the corvette?

Stan

Mark Yacavone · 08-21-2023, 12:10 AM

( I'm going to use my crystal ball to finish this. Then I'll offer my personal observations, and then we'll kick it around)

Wild Horse opens in mid September for a Friday night T&T. NB has to work until 5, but then he and VR head out to the track.
There's about 200 cars in line after they tech in.
An hour later ,it's show time . NB brings it up on the two step but the rpm is too high and it rolls the beams, but he runs 102 mph!
Back in the pits , they adjust the pressure gauge and the two step rpm. By now, the staging lane is completely pack again .Might get one more run in. Better make it count.
He does..VR runs a 12.86 @ almost 103 on a 13.45 index. The boys are happy with that on a hot night at a slow track.

NB is horny to race for real now. He'd like to go to Bakersfield in a couple of weeks for the double Divisional but then he puts a pencil to it... 1000 miles, round trip, $ 500 for two entries and fuel. Another $500 for gas @ California prices, etc.
He just can't swing it. He spent or borrowed all he could to finish the car.
Maybe Vegas Div. which is 600 miles round trip.
But then he hears that the local combo series will have an event at Tucson in October.
That's the plan.
The racers in that series voted for head up runs in the eliminator, even though there isn't anyone available for fuel check or to make sure there's no hanky panky going on NB's not worried. He's got to turn on some win lights first.

At the combo, NB is hitting the tree pretty good. First round , against a 9 second S/S car, that guy fell asleep while sitting there so long, and NB wins his first round.
Second round, a big head start, and that guy can't wait that long, and goes red.
NB is having a ball. That is until he realizes he's got to run a b/a turbo TA, heads up , where he promptly gets whacked by two tenths!
Oh, well. NB won some rounds and made a few bucks. He's happy. Now he's going to go home and think about what's next.

Back at VR's on Monday evening , first thing NB says is "I've got to speed that car up for next year. Who makes those tri-y headers, and who to I talk to about getting my heads and manifold "enhanced"?

MY

Paul Precht · 08-21-2023, 01:27 AM

What is a b/a turbo TA.

08-19-2023, 07:26 AM	#1
Billy Nees VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: On a hilltop in Pa. Posts: 4,504 Likes: 3,606 Liked 7,814 Times in 1,748 Posts	Re: Joe Newbie, 20 Builds a "Stocker"' in 2023 Ya know, there's a "newbie" who happens to be a member of a prominent racing family in Div. 3 and is just getting things sorted out. This prominent racing family doesn't post much on here but maybe they could make an exception and make some helpful comments OR maybe even start a "build" thread? __________________ Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS I'm not spending 100K to win 2K

08-19-2023, 12:39 PM	#2
Mark Yacavone Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Miles From Nowhere Posts: 7,825 Likes: 2,919 Liked 5,135 Times in 1,958 Posts	Re: Joe Newbie, 20 Builds a "Stocker"' in 2023 Getting close now... NB> Hey, I'm running out of cash here. I see some 1 and 5/8 " headers on Summit. I think I'll get them with my credit card and add some collector extensions. What do you think? VR> You should be able to run under the index with them, but 283s really react well to a good header. Maybe a step deal with merge collectors, or a set of stainless Tri /Y's ..Eventually you'll want to go that way.. NB maxes out his credit card for a fuel pump, gas line , fuel pressure gauge , sample valve, tach, oil and water gauges, line lock, two gas jugs, and a low pressure tire gauge. The guys put the car all together, fire it up , break in the cam with some borrowed 1.3 rockers. Sounds great. There's a rumor out there that the local track will be opening for some Friday night T&T action, so we wait... TBC __________________ "We are lucky we don't get as much Government as we pay for." Will Rogers Last edited by Mark Yacavone; 08-19-2023 at 01:14 PM.

08-21-2023, 12:10 AM	#9
Mark Yacavone Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Miles From Nowhere Posts: 7,825 Likes: 2,919 Liked 5,135 Times in 1,958 Posts	Re: Joe Newbie, 20 Builds a "Stocker"' in 2023 ( I'm going to use my crystal ball to finish this. Then I'll offer my personal observations, and then we'll kick it around) Wild Horse opens in mid September for a Friday night T&T. NB has to work until 5, but then he and VR head out to the track. There's about 200 cars in line after they tech in. An hour later ,it's show time . NB brings it up on the two step but the rpm is too high and it rolls the beams, but he runs 102 mph! Back in the pits , they adjust the pressure gauge and the two step rpm. By now, the staging lane is completely pack again .Might get one more run in. Better make it count. He does..VR runs a 12.86 @ almost 103 on a 13.45 index. The boys are happy with that on a hot night at a slow track. NB is horny to race for real now. He'd like to go to Bakersfield in a couple of weeks for the double Divisional but then he puts a pencil to it... 1000 miles, round trip, $ 500 for two entries and fuel. Another $500 for gas @ California prices, etc. He just can't swing it. He spent or borrowed all he could to finish the car. Maybe Vegas Div. which is 600 miles round trip. But then he hears that the local combo series will have an event at Tucson in October. That's the plan. The racers in that series voted for head up runs in the eliminator, even though there isn't anyone available for fuel check or to make sure there's no hanky panky going on NB's not worried. He's got to turn on some win lights first. At the combo, NB is hitting the tree pretty good. First round , against a 9 second S/S car, that guy fell asleep while sitting there so long, and NB wins his first round. Second round, a big head start, and that guy can't wait that long, and goes red. NB is having a ball. That is until he realizes he's got to run a b/a turbo TA, heads up , where he promptly gets whacked by two tenths! Oh, well. NB won some rounds and made a few bucks. He's happy. Now he's going to go home and think about what's next. Back at VR's on Monday evening , first thing NB says is "I've got to speed that car up for next year. Who makes those tri-y headers, and who to I talk to about getting my heads and manifold "enhanced"? MY __________________ "We are lucky we don't get as much Government as we pay for." Will Rogers Last edited by Mark Yacavone; 08-21-2023 at 12:13 AM.

08-21-2023, 01:27 AM	#10
Paul Precht Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Elysburg, Pa Posts: 733 Likes: 361 Liked 327 Times in 121 Posts	Re: Joe Newbie, 20 Builds a "Stocker"' in 2023 What is a b/a turbo TA.