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[Lenny5160_v2]

I do this all the time if I am bracket racing and have a bye. Lift at the 1000' (or 330' for 1/8 mile) and put it dead-on, just to show everyone that I can. It's not sorcery.

With Troy being in a slow car for the class, almost any opponent has the ability to come up and throw a wheel on him. He's found a way to take that away by being so extremely slow and further decelerating when the other cars are charging. That's creative thinking and it's obviously working!

[curtis reed]

It's really nice of everyone to discuss his tactics here so his future opponents know what to expect. LOL This is just normal bracket racing stuff.



I have always believed that it would benefit many class racers to bracket race when they aren't racing their class car just to get used to things like this.

[Lenny5160_v2]

Originally Posted by curtis reed

I have always believed that it would benefit many class racers to bracket race when they aren't racing their class car just to get used to things like this.

I used to think this also, and would see some good class racers doing just that. But if you have a hard running car, there are a lot of parts with limited life spans. The cost per run gets pretty high. So I understand why many would not want to do it.

[Adub464Q]

Not subscribing or unsubscribing to conspiracy theories....however, I would like some opinions on this.

WIth a grid, you can set a safety RPM limit to come on at a pre-determined time after a trigger point. For instance in my super class cars, I have this set at 12 seconds after the trigger point (transbrake released). It is set at 12 seconds, as this is SC and SG cars therefore it will be in shutdown. This is in case there is an issue in the shutdown area, the ignition box will only allow the engine to go to 3000 rpm in my cars case.

If you were to set this at 9 seconds (on an 11 second car), would this be considered a downtrack rev limiter or is this a safety switch?

[Lenny5160_v2]

Originally Posted by Adub464Q

If you were to set this at 9 seconds (on an 11 second car), would this be considered a downtrack rev limiter or is this a safety switch?

That's an illegal downtrack rev limiter, IMO.

[bigshow2966]

Originally Posted by Adub464Q

If you were to set this at 9 seconds (on an 11 second car), would this be considered a downtrack rev limiter or is this a safety switch?

Downtrack rev limiter would be my guess.

The last race I was with Mike Jeffrey at Tri-State he had not changed rear gears from Denver. He didn't think it would leg through, but 1st qualifier he went .99X under. He decided to run to the 1000 foot mark and let off. He made it 4 rounds that way and avoided a hit. It wasn't scrubbing a whole lot of ET off either.

[Ellis V Buth]

Originally Posted by bigshow2966

Downtrack rev limiter would be my guess.

The last race I was with Mike Jeffrey at Tri-State he had not changed rear gears from Denver. He didn't think it would leg through, but 1st qualifier he went .99X under. He decided to run to the 1000 foot mark and let off. He made it 4 rounds that way and avoided a hit. It wasn't scrubbing a whole lot of ET off either.

1000' lift and coast doesn't kill near as much as some would think. It all depends on momentum and whatnot but I've found in some of my bracket cars it can be as little as .15 or as much as .30 depending on speed and weight and conditions.

[jim reynolds]

Not hard to do legally...bitd 80's IHRA super stock, we had to dial either index or record and in bad air i just flat could not run the record. SOooo i would pick 1 telephone pole to run to and go to neutral and back into the index. Worked sometimes lol !

[Jim Caughlin]

Originally Posted by Ellis V Buth

1000' lift and coast doesn't kill near as much as some would think. It all depends on momentum and whatnot but I've found in some of my bracket cars it can be as little as .15 or as much as .30 depending on speed and weight and conditions.

Can't speak for other combos but letting off the throttle and not hitting the brakes doesn't really kill a lot of MPH in my car.

[Ellis V Buth]

Originally Posted by Lenny5160_v2

I do this all the time if I am bracket racing and have a bye. Lift at the 1000' (or 330' for 1/8 mile) and put it dead-on, just to show everyone that I can. It's not sorcery.

With Troy being in a slow car for the class, almost any opponent has the ability to come up and throw a wheel on him. He's found a way to take that away by being so extremely slow and further decelerating when the other cars are charging. That's creative thinking and it's obviously working!

In 2020 at the bracket finals I qualified for sportsman class but didn't have a competitive car that ran 12.00 or slower at the time. I decided to race my pro car (since I was footbraking and hand shifting anyways) and simply lift at the 1/8th mile cone as if I were racing to there. I ended up making the final round before choosing to give up the stripe instead of taking it.

Car ran consistently driving that way based on what the 1/8th mile times were. 12.45 at 72 MPH isn't what several of the other drivers were expecting...especially the ones dialed around 12.90 and I'd go flying past them before 330' and then they'd start catching me quickly after I performed my spot drop.

I personally prescribe to this simply being a different strategy and not a situation of cheating. While I'm sure there is a way a person could cheat doing something like this I know it is possible to do it competitively from my personal experience.