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Old 01-26-2024, 02:04 PM   #1
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Some of the stock guys that say they would never cheat are the same guys that have their heads and manifolds ported(I've seen their heads and manifolds being ported years ago at a big name shop) and then justify it in their mind by saying there's no way racer x is running what he does without porting so I'm going to do it too.
Unfortunately cylinder heads and manifolds being ported is not something that will ever go back to the way it used to be. I'm sure if cylinder heads started being policed as strict as the rulebook states, their wouldn't be such a large group of racers lobbying to lower the indexes by 3 tenths. It's sort of like the speed limit. While those going 85mph in a 65 are breaking the law, you don't get a reward for doing 65. There's an interesting story I've heard of someone getting thrown out at Indy when 3 cylinder heads from 3 different cars with supposedly identical castings were inspected at the same time. 2 out of the 3 had ported heads, the other one didn't. Guess who was thrown out....
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Old 01-26-2024, 03:16 PM   #2
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I will NEVER cheat.


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Old 01-26-2024, 03:28 PM   #3
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Fred, in your almost 83 years on this rock, you've never cheated at anything?

Not playing a game, not at school, not on your taxes not in the workplace?

Even clergy cheat.

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Old 01-26-2024, 04:06 PM   #4
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Want to see what a good driver in a good car can do with no tricks? Watch the World Footbrake Challenge. We don't need no steenking electronics.
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Old 01-27-2024, 01:28 PM   #5
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Unfortunately cylinder heads and manifolds being ported is not something that will ever go back to the way it used to be. I'm sure if cylinder heads started being policed as strict as the rulebook states, their wouldn't be such a large group of racers lobbying to lower the indexes by 3 tenths. It's sort of like the speed limit. While those going 85mph in a 65 are breaking the law, you don't get a reward for doing 65. There's an interesting story I've heard of someone getting thrown out at Indy when 3 cylinder heads from 3 different cars with supposedly identical castings were inspected at the same time. 2 out of the 3 had ported heads, the other one didn't. Guess who was thrown out....

Remember what happened a couple of years back, when NHRA set Wesley Roberson loose to police cylinder heads?




They should turn Wesley Roberson, Travis Miller, and Dave Ley loose, and give them a free hand to fully police Stock and Super Stock, with the necessary staff.
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Old 01-28-2024, 02:12 AM   #6
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Wasn't NHRA doing random spot checks last year ?
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Old 01-28-2024, 12:16 PM   #7
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Remember what happened a couple of years back, when NHRA set Wesley Roberson loose to police cylinder heads?




They should turn Wesley Roberson, Travis Miller, and Dave Ley loose, and give them a free hand to fully police Stock and Super Stock, with the necessary staff.
What NHRA tech officials were conducting teardown the year the Super Stock LS got bounced for the crankshaft?
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