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Old 02-12-2024, 09:07 PM   #1
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Default Re: ProStar Shootout observations.

I was lucky enough to attend the race Fri-Sat. I will say that with any first time show there are some improvements that they can take into account for the next go around.

However, when it comes to S/SS at this venue versus a standard national event, when the pros finished you STILL couldn’t get an open seat in the stands to watch the sportsman classes. I had to stand next to Bobby along the fence 2nd round of Super Stock just to catch a view of the round. The sportsman competitors put on a heck of a show for the fans.

Hoping to make the trip out again next year!
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Old 02-15-2024, 11:32 AM   #2
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Old 02-15-2024, 07:56 PM   #3
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What is so special about a race that pays 30K to win,when the entry fee is 1K to enter and there’s a 32 car field? This was a self funded race and a Bracket race also with none Bracket race cars. So what am I missing!!!!
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Default Re: ProStar Shootout observations.

Just for context, the Gatornationals will have 70 cars in Stock at $350 entry which is a $24,500 intake and paying out $8200. Super Stock intake is $24,500 and paying out $8950. This race took in $32,000 and paid out $30,000. Top qualifiers also got $1000 although it came from sponsors. This race introduced us to a new audience at a packed venue. Pair that with Bill Bader speaking very highly of Stk/SS last Tuesday, maybe some good things are on the horizon.
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Old 02-16-2024, 10:31 AM   #5
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that audience, that packed venue was not there to watch stock and super stock cars. They were the filler no different than a national event. Hence the finals after the Pro program was done.
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Just for context, the Gatornationals will have 70 cars in Stock at $350 entry which is a $24,500 intake and paying out $8200. Super Stock intake is $24,500 and paying out $8950. This race took in $32,000 and paid out $30,000. Top qualifiers also got $1000 although it came from sponsors. This race introduced us to a new audience at a packed venue. Pair that with Bill Bader speaking very highly of Stk/SS last Tuesday, maybe some good things are on the horizon.
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I am very glad to see the purse issues at NHRA events being brought up It is not right that the purse now is less than it was many many many years ago
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Old 02-16-2024, 10:48 AM   #7
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the NHRA payouts have been discussed ad nauseum here for years YET the quotas are always met, filled sometimes in minutes and you have racers posting here looking for an entry. Clearly class racers don't care about the payouts and the NHRA knows it!

All sorts of groups are able to organize thousands in a minutes using social media for flash mobs, looting, rioting, etc. If only the old guys that largely make up the NHRA LODRS class racers could do the same and sit out just ONE national event, the NHRA would shyt themselves. Instead you waste bandwidth here complaining and no one at the NHRA is listening no mind cares.

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the NHRA payouts have been discussed ad nauseum here for years YET the quotas are always met, filled sometimes in minutes and you have racers posting here looking for an entry. Clearly class racers don't care about the payouts and the NHRA knows it!

All sorts of groups are able to organize thousands in a minutes using social media for flash mobs, looting, rioting, etc. If only the old guys that largely make up the NHRA LODRS class racers could do the same and sit out just ONE national event, the NHRA would shyt themselves. Instead you waste bandwidth here complaining and no one at the NHRA is listening no mind cares.
I can't help but agree with you here. I've had the same thought many times. If racers keep showing up no matter what, why change anything? Apart from the small payout, we are almost free income for the NHRA at national events. It will never happen, but if all Stock/SS guys came together and decided to not enter one of the national events, the $40,000 plus in entry fees that never shows up in the bank will get their attention. I've heard someone mention it before, and it seems to be more plausible as time goes on. The NHRA legal team would probably not advise them to kill of Stock and Super Stock completely. However, if they gradually make us more unhappy with them, we may just go away on our own, which may be part of their plan.
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