Counterfeit Parts

mtkawboy · 04-15-2024, 02:24 PM

Just read that Summit pulled them off the shelf but as for the other Chinese crap I dont know. The Chinese valve body was $30-$40 cheaper

L.Fite · 04-15-2024, 05:49 PM

How you like that $30 when it locks up in high gear and spits you into the wall at 130mph!

pmrphil · 04-15-2024, 05:59 PM

If you go and look at Speedmaster and see just how much stuff they "produce" your head will spin - not one single thing is of their own design - they even sell a belt drive for a BBF - if you see it in person, you'll never use it.

MR DERBY CITY · 04-15-2024, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by mtkawboy

Just read that Summit pulled them off the shelf but as for the other Chinese crap I dont know. The Chinese valve body was $30-$40 cheaper

Where did you read this at ??

west coast · 04-15-2024, 09:09 PM

I have bought parts directly from Broader performance including his reverse valvebody kits he previosly sold and the one in the video, also his low gear set never had a problem with any of them or the price he charges. I have bought some tranny parts from speedmaster that broader doesnt have. I bought a C4 pump which are gettig hard to find good cores now days. the first one i got was missing the gear in it ha dto sen it back, i tried to get them to send me just the gears but they wouldnt. Got the next pump took it apart to inspect this one had gears. The casting case perosity was so bad that the presure side and suction side were one, would have never worked. there was so much aluminum casting that was breaking off that it did work it would not be very long. There is no customer support there just give you the run around evertime you called if someone answered the phone. the other part I bought was just as bad would not fit, couldnt even assemble it.

Any body got a good source for C4 pumps

mtkawboy · 04-16-2024, 12:24 PM

read it on the speedtalk forum that Summitt pulled the parts

JGarey · 04-16-2024, 02:39 PM

Cglrcng · 04-16-2024, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by mtkawboy

read it on the speedtalk forum that Summitt pulled the parts

That is what I am talking about, stop the sales first, then the marketing, then go after those putting your name on their stolen design, that stops the knock offs being used.

Rose Racing · 04-16-2024, 09:03 PM

I am guilty of buying Speedmaster parts. Just this PPP Shifter look a like. It wasn't really that much cheaper and I did not do it because I was getting a deal. I had sent PPP emails and called them and couldn't get anyone to pick up a phone or reply and I was set on getting their shifter so I got a Speedmaster knockoff from Summit or Jegs but I did get a genuine Broader Valvebody kit for my C4 and it was worth it.... A beautiful piece.

04-17-2024, 08:50 AM

I’ve seen the offshore small block head on the dyno with numbers down 50 compared to Brodix..did not respond to basic tune…
We are doing a bbc offshore head now for a boat motor., I’ll report numbers when done.

04-15-2024, 02:24 PM	#1
mtkawboy Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Billings Mt Posts: 281 Likes: 183 Liked 54 Times in 18 Posts	Re: Counterfeit Parts Just read that Summit pulled them off the shelf but as for the other Chinese crap I dont know. The Chinese valve body was $30-$40 cheaper

04-15-2024, 05:49 PM	#2
L.Fite Senior Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 513 Likes: 545 Liked 494 Times in 241 Posts	Re: Counterfeit Parts How you like that $30 when it locks up in high gear and spits you into the wall at 130mph!

04-15-2024, 05:59 PM	#3
pmrphil Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: CT Posts: 457 Likes: 1,796 Liked 347 Times in 151 Posts	Re: Counterfeit Parts If you go and look at Speedmaster and see just how much stuff they "produce" your head will spin - not one single thing is of their own design - they even sell a belt drive for a BBF - if you see it in person, you'll never use it. __________________ Phil Molski PMR Performance S/C 1623

04-15-2024, 09:09 PM	#5
west coast Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Rainy Washington Posts: 609 Likes: 12 Liked 223 Times in 73 Posts	Re: Counterfeit Parts I have bought parts directly from Broader performance including his reverse valvebody kits he previosly sold and the one in the video, also his low gear set never had a problem with any of them or the price he charges. I have bought some tranny parts from speedmaster that broader doesnt have. I bought a C4 pump which are gettig hard to find good cores now days. the first one i got was missing the gear in it ha dto sen it back, i tried to get them to send me just the gears but they wouldnt. Got the next pump took it apart to inspect this one had gears. The casting case perosity was so bad that the presure side and suction side were one, would have never worked. there was so much aluminum casting that was breaking off that it did work it would not be very long. There is no customer support there just give you the run around evertime you called if someone answered the phone. the other part I bought was just as bad would not fit, couldnt even assemble it. Any body got a good source for C4 pumps __________________ James Boyce 6052 K/SA Stock National record holder 2015,2018,2 times in 2022,2023

04-16-2024, 12:24 PM	#6
mtkawboy Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Billings Mt Posts: 281 Likes: 183 Liked 54 Times in 18 Posts	Re: Counterfeit Parts read it on the speedtalk forum that Summitt pulled the parts

04-16-2024, 02:39 PM	#7
JGarey Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Cleburne, Texas Posts: 44 Likes: 175 Liked 24 Times in 10 Posts	Re: Counterfeit Parts __________________ James "jim" Garey Former Texas Motorplex track champion

04-16-2024, 09:03 PM	#9
Rose Racing Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Sandusky, Ohio Posts: 353 Likes: 95 Liked 226 Times in 74 Posts	Re: Counterfeit Parts I am guilty of buying Speedmaster parts. Just this PPP Shifter look a like. It wasn't really that much cheaper and I did not do it because I was getting a deal. I had sent PPP emails and called them and couldn't get anyone to pick up a phone or reply and I was set on getting their shifter so I got a Speedmaster knockoff from Summit or Jegs but I did get a genuine Broader Valvebody kit for my C4 and it was worth it.... A beautiful piece. Attached Thumbnails __________________ J.T. Rose & Associates U/SA T/SA 302R

04-17-2024, 08:50 AM	#10
Barry Polley Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Counterfeit Parts I’ve seen the offshore small block head on the dyno with numbers down 50 compared to Brodix..did not respond to basic tune… We are doing a bbc offshore head now for a boat motor., I’ll report numbers when done.