Mopars at Vegas

[Carguy49]

Lots of fast Mopars on the west coast. We have small block, big block, Max Wedge's and Hemis, too.

[Cglrcng]

Upon wake up Saturday morning in Stk, there was at least 2 more Mopars eligible for a class trophy a Plymouth or a Dodge in EF/S (of which I can assure you, not on paper, but in reality would have been a toss up at the big end) ,for a 1 and done class trophy. But, class racing being a game of inches like it certainly is, in Q1 came down to just a couple of inches of Bill O'Connor pre-staging, putting the car in gear to inch his Plymouth Horizon forward the last couple of inches necessary to call it a qualified entry under the rules, into the staging beam, and super sadly while I watched from the ready line in the second pair back, his tyranny was completely locked up (suspect breakage was internal, and probably the pin holding the spider gears in the pinion housing slid out, locked the diff up completely, and only would allow it to roll reward, not forward. The gave the tree to the car in the other lane, and pushed him off, and had to tow it back to the pits backwards.

He withdrew, pushing my Daytona into my first Auto Combo later, and I had nothing at Vegas (lousy car struggles at Vegas with the altitude and lousy DA currently, but going to see Holley this week to tap tap tune in near future and see if we can fix thst), for the Fastest -.500 under car in the Auto Combo but a decent .015 light, so it was a game of inches, just in Q1 instead of C1!

It was heart wrenching and damaging for both of us for sure. 1 of our 2 Mopars would have taken home a Wally save for that really rotten timed bad break 2 or so inches from the stage beam. The rules are the rules, they are published, the shrapnel in his pan shows the carnage.

I offered to help him pull the Trans and see if we could get it fixed, but he did not have an official Q pass, it could not be completed by any means by C1 (which is also Q2), so withdrawal was his only option as racing on Sunday wasn't an option.

And the best laid plans of mice and men easily go awry!

Edit, Tuesday night 8:32 PM PDT

I just received a text thread from Bill O'Connor, and he went to Div. 7 Director in the tower after breaking Saturday AM, requested to withdraw, and was denied. Yet when I received the C1 pairing sheet he was not listed on it under EF/S, he was not on the Q1 qualifying sheet, he was on the Q1 Incrementals sheet (I have all 3 copies (secured from RFC), I assumed he was allowed to withdraw from Div7-4 race, then asked Ron the lane master since I was laddered into the auto combo, if he was allowed to withdraw. Yes was the answer, they laddered you in the combo. I ran under index C1, they should not have pulled him of the pairing sheet if not withdrawn, and should have just been a no show. He has again asked to withdraw and be refunded, awaiting that response, or I will appeal.

Bean counters cannot both keep his money, and the trophy IMHO. (At the track, I reviewed the published qualifying rule, he went to request the withdrawal, unfortunately they made a decision to both say no, and pull him off the class C1 pairing sheet and ladder me into the auto combo. (Those decisions just do not weigh out). Mistakes can be made, and be corrected/rectified.

[jmcarter]

An impressive showing for the Mopar contingent…

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...UMMIT#indextop

[Demon340]

Favor to ask ?
First time out in two years with my red 71 Demon. I did make three T&Ts on Wednesday, but broke the rear on Q1 Thursday in Stock. If anyone has a picture / video of my car and would share with me, I would be grateful?
Larry Robbins
5706 D/SA
970-985-1376

[Frank Castros]

The MoPar guys owned the joint!

However, great racing the past month by all the racers in the western most time zones. All just killed it!

[4284spd]

Don't forget that a FE Cobra Jet won Stock in the first race and a FE Cobra Jet won SS the second race!!!!

Originally Posted by Frank Castros

The MoPar guys owned the joint!

However, great racing the past month by all the racers in the western most time zones. All just killed it!

[Cglrcng]

Originally Posted by 4284spd

Don't forget that a FE Cobra Jet won Stock in the first race and a FE Cobra Jet won SS the second race!!!!

Those Fords did good too!

[Cglrcng]

Originally Posted by Cglrcng

Upon wake up Saturday morning in Stk, there was at least 2 more Mopars eligible for a class trophy a Plymouth or a Dodge in EF/S (of which I can assure you, not on paper, but in reality would have been a toss up at the big end) ,for a 1 and done class trophy. But, class racing being a game of inches like it certainly is, in Q1 came down to just a couple of inches of Bill O'Connor pre-staging, putting the car in gear to inch his Plymouth Horizon forward the last couple of inches necessary to call it a qualified entry under the rules, into the staging beam, and super sadly while I watched from the ready line in the second pair back, his tyranny was completely locked up (suspect breakage was internal, and probably the pin holding the spider gears in the pinion housing slid out, locked the diff up completely, and only would allow it to roll reward, not forward. The gave the tree to the car in the other lane, and pushed him off, and had to tow it back to the pits backwards.

He withdrew, pushing my Daytona into my first Auto Combo later, and I had nothing at Vegas (lousy car struggles at Vegas with the altitude and lousy DA currently, but going to see Holley this week to tap tap tune in near future and see if we can fix thst), for the Fastest -.500 under car in the Auto Combo but a decent .015 light, so it was a game of inches, just in Q1 instead of C1!

It was heart wrenching and damaging for both of us for sure. 1 of our 2 Mopars would have taken home a Wally save for that really rotten timed bad break 2 or so inches from the stage beam. The rules are the rules, they are published, the shrapnel in his pan shows the carnage.

I offered to help him pull the Trans and see if we could get it fixed, but he did not have an official Q pass, it could not be completed by any means by C1 (which is also Q2), so withdrawal was his only option as racing on Sunday wasn't an option.

And the best laid plans of mice and men easily go awry!

Edit, Tuesday night 8:32 PM PDT

I just received a text thread from Bill O'Connor, and he went to Div. 7 Director in the tower after breaking Saturday AM, requested to withdraw, and was denied. Yet when I received the C1 pairing sheet he was not listed on it under EF/S, he was not on the Q1 qualifying sheet, he was on the Q1 Incrementals sheet (I have all 3 copies (secured from RFC), I assumed he was allowed to withdraw from Div7-4 race, then asked Ron the lane master since I was laddered into the auto combo, if he was allowed to withdraw. Yes was the answer, they laddered you in the combo. I ran under index C1, they should not have pulled him of the pairing sheet if not withdrawn, and should have just been a no show. He has again asked to withdraw and be refunded, awaiting that response, or I will appeal.

Bean counters cannot both keep his money, and the trophy IMHO. (At the track, I reviewed the published qualifying rule, he went to request the withdrawal, unfortunately they made a decision to both say no, and pull him off the class C1 pairing sheet and ladder me into the auto combo. (Those decisions just do not weigh out). Mistakes can be made, and be corrected/rectified.

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***Is there any chance at all that a moderator can possibly please move this posting in its entirety over to my Compulink Sure Start thread please, I would like to first add to it there (leave it as is) as I wrote it, and i will ust add new info on how it appears to have been
resolved, and new info to it about why I wrote it like I did on a Tuesday night post race, and where that leaves us all as racers.

It didn't even happen to me, but a fellow "in class competitor at the time, but it also highly affected me personally, while I watched from the ready line. Put our D.D., in a really tough decision on the fly
making position, and if it can happen to us, it has probably happened to a few of you over the last 15 years, or happen again to any of us at anytime in the future again. The resolution is simple, realize through data and evidence a problem exists. Take simple action to get it fixed. Force the.fix if necessary, don't ignore the existing issue, answer the questions. And do it publicly.

Lastly, I am a resolve the flaws kind of guy, not crying or whining over spilled milk. See something, say something screw the possible repercussions, let's just fix it for the future.

The NHRA rules are golden in my heart, at least we have a published ruleset, if it is flawed, it is fully understandable, but if a part is known to be, or discovered to be in conflict (and in this case just evolved for the better through the addition of evolving technology), but an antiquated ruleset section was left unchanged, and did not catch up by simple oversight...easily done btw, ...Fix it and move on. Ignoring a flaw exists does not make it go away.

Ty in advance to a moderator who may accomplish the task easier than my retyping it there. I appreciate you.

[Frank Castros]

Originally Posted by Tom P

Really? Multiple SS Max Wedges at the same event? Out west too!

Who purchased Eric Bell's '64 Wedge car?

[Cglrcng]

We had something like 109+Stockers for D73, then at least 98+ for D74, it was killer going 3 deep on 1 side to get them all in for pairing, and then they started lining up down the right 1-3 deep, went pretty smooth though. It was a good turnout, and pretty great weather compared to what it has been this Spring. Longest haul Welcome to Mathias Munter Lycksele Vasterbotten (Sweden I believe). Thanks to he, Mark RIP brother, and The Irving's John & Jon lending another new racer in Div. 7 a hand!

Munter, a special note here brother, keep your chin up, getting used to The LED tree takes some time, ask me I can tell you it does. I can empathize fully. September to April seemed like forever, and I think outside of massive engine failure or a crash, I lost every way a man can lose. Most of it at the tree. It gets better though. Technology changes take getting used to, we adapt or die.