Counterfeit Parts - Page 5

Dennisdallas188 · 04-24-2024, 03:14 PM

Just heard from a friend who works at Summit that they’ve officially dropped Speedmaster.

J.R. Haddad · 04-24-2024, 03:21 PM

sst7250, you are right. However, for them to change company names, order new packaging, re package, re inventory, change part #'s to make them look different, is a complete, expensive pain in the azz. If we can catch them again right out of the chute, we'll aggravate them into submission. is this going away anytime soon, NO. But we can all help give them the fight of their corporate lives.

J.R.

pmrphil · 04-24-2024, 06:16 PM

Well, when they changed names LAST time (from Pro Comp Engineering) they were ballsy enough to leave all the part numbers with the "PCE" prefix - easy enough to spot. Packaging won't take them that long, shipping both ways will probably take longer, but they'll be back. Too much invested to let it all go away, they already know the profit margin in peddling junk.

dragracerray · 04-25-2024, 10:23 AM

Has this company, and others like it, been allowed at PRI? I would hope with a reputation like this they would not be allowed in. PRI implies a level of honest that would cause people to trust them. Ray

pmrphil · 04-25-2024, 12:42 PM

Yup, they were there #3233, and they are currently on the list for 2024
All available online

Dan Bennett · 04-25-2024, 01:03 PM

I worked at a parts store for a guy who'd been a funny car racer in the 60s and 70s.

There were a couple of times when we changed brands for some lines we carried. As I remember, it would come with monetary benefits from the manufacturer or the wholesaler.

Once, the warehouse sent in sales reps to rebox all our parts (it was ignition that time) into the new brand's packaging. We didn't sell junk, so it was something like going from Standard to AC Delco or vice versa. So right after the change, parts made by the former company were being sold in the boxes of the other.

Another time, the change was made by shipping us the boxes and paying us to change over.

Considering the company has a history of doing the scammer thing and just changing names, I would not doubt this happening. Whether Summit would go along is a question, but in 2024 with MBAs ruling the world, if money was at stake I'm much less sure they'd refuse.

Maybe not a thing that applies here, but a thought I had as this trainwreck developed.

otnipecar · 04-27-2024, 07:48 PM

Curious, is the SpeedMaster that presents NHRA Insider Live the same as this thread is about? Was watching the Tasca/Lohnes/Pedregon statement this morning and it shows that at the beginning of the video.

GUMP · 04-28-2024, 11:52 AM

They have a big display at Charlotte.

Keith 944 · 04-28-2024, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GUMP

They have a big display at Charlotte.

Yeah I road by that and couldn’t believe it. I had never heard of them before the broader thing and there they are in bed with nhra. Good pair

J.R. Haddad · 04-28-2024, 06:50 PM

Keith, I've enrolled you in assertive communication training. It will help you
come out of your shell. LOL.

J.R.

04-24-2024, 03:14 PM	#41
Dennisdallas188 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2022 Posts: 7 Likes: 8 Liked 6 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Counterfeit Parts Just heard from a friend who works at Summit that they’ve officially dropped Speedmaster.

04-24-2024, 03:21 PM	#42
J.R. Haddad Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 784 Likes: 935 Liked 1,464 Times in 307 Posts	Re: Counterfeit Parts sst7250, you are right. However, for them to change company names, order new packaging, re package, re inventory, change part #'s to make them look different, is a complete, expensive pain in the azz. If we can catch them again right out of the chute, we'll aggravate them into submission. is this going away anytime soon, NO. But we can all help give them the fight of their corporate lives. J.R.

04-24-2024, 06:16 PM	#43
pmrphil Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: CT Posts: 456 Likes: 1,796 Liked 346 Times in 150 Posts	Re: Counterfeit Parts Well, when they changed names LAST time (from Pro Comp Engineering) they were ballsy enough to leave all the part numbers with the "PCE" prefix - easy enough to spot. Packaging won't take them that long, shipping both ways will probably take longer, but they'll be back. Too much invested to let it all go away, they already know the profit margin in peddling junk. __________________ Phil Molski PMR Performance S/C 1623

04-25-2024, 10:23 AM	#44
dragracerray Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: Webster, New York Posts: 218 Likes: 470 Liked 208 Times in 89 Posts	Re: Counterfeit Parts Has this company, and others like it, been allowed at PRI? I would hope with a reputation like this they would not be allowed in. PRI implies a level of honest that would cause people to trust them. Ray __________________ Ray Bassett I/SA 1687, SS/DA 1687 "SuperPro is both", unknown

04-25-2024, 12:42 PM	#45
pmrphil Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: CT Posts: 456 Likes: 1,796 Liked 346 Times in 150 Posts	Re: Counterfeit Parts Yup, they were there #3233, and they are currently on the list for 2024 All available online __________________ Phil Molski PMR Performance S/C 1623

04-25-2024, 01:03 PM	#46
Dan Bennett Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 437 Likes: 840 Liked 591 Times in 134 Posts	Re: Counterfeit Parts I worked at a parts store for a guy who'd been a funny car racer in the 60s and 70s. There were a couple of times when we changed brands for some lines we carried. As I remember, it would come with monetary benefits from the manufacturer or the wholesaler. Once, the warehouse sent in sales reps to rebox all our parts (it was ignition that time) into the new brand's packaging. We didn't sell junk, so it was something like going from Standard to AC Delco or vice versa. So right after the change, parts made by the former company were being sold in the boxes of the other. Another time, the change was made by shipping us the boxes and paying us to change over. Considering the company has a history of doing the scammer thing and just changing names, I would not doubt this happening. Whether Summit would go along is a question, but in 2024 with MBAs ruling the world, if money was at stake I'm much less sure they'd refuse. Maybe not a thing that applies here, but a thought I had as this trainwreck developed.

04-27-2024, 07:48 PM	#47
otnipecar Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Washington Posts: 80 Likes: 154 Liked 77 Times in 37 Posts	Re: Counterfeit Parts Curious, is the SpeedMaster that presents NHRA Insider Live the same as this thread is about? Was watching the Tasca/Lohnes/Pedregon statement this morning and it shows that at the beginning of the video. __________________ Rick Green 6847 O/SA

04-28-2024, 11:52 AM	#48
GUMP VIP Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Shelby, NC Posts: 1,818 Likes: 2,158 Liked 2,336 Times in 549 Posts	Re: Counterfeit Parts They have a big display at Charlotte. __________________ Daren Poole-Adams NHRA Stock/SS 2007

04-28-2024, 06:50 PM	#50
J.R. Haddad Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 784 Likes: 935 Liked 1,464 Times in 307 Posts	Re: Counterfeit Parts Keith, I've enrolled you in assertive communication training. It will help you come out of your shell. LOL. J.R.