index lowering

[Glenn Briglio]

Originally Posted by Pete Lanciers

All of us are painfully aware of combinations that are absurdly, preposterously factored!!! The administration and management of current AHFS policy has done little to address those inequities in spite of the assurances we?ve received through the years and in some cases has even exacerbated some by taking off additional horsepower.

Raising the index floor across the board by two tenths may somewhat camouflage combinations allowed to run in the wrong class. However it will do nothing to level the playing field, this can only be accomplished by factoring combinations solely on the HP potential of each accepted engine. NHRA Tech have the courage to take the problem head on, this current proposal will only hurt entry level participation when we should be doing everything in our power to encourage it.

My vote: Not only No, but F? NO!!!

I get the part of not wanting to lowering indexs by two tenths to help newbies. But making changes to hp because you can't run as fast as your competitor ain't cool. Either work on your combination or run the same combo that is the fastest. No one stopping you from buying or building the best for the class.

[Bryan Worner]

I love the guys who piss and moan about Stock and Super Stock being performance based, wanting more heads ups, points for records, qualifying posifion, against ?shoe polish racing, etc, but are against lowering the indexes! Make up your mind, would you!

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Glenn Briglio

Either work on your combination or run the same combo that is the fastest. No one stopping you from buying or building the best for the class.

And everybody would be racing a Camaro! (I've got a couple of them left in the garage somewhere....Hmmm)

[Glenn Briglio]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

And everybody would be racing a Camaro! (I've got a couple of them left in the garage somewhere....Hmmm)

You've proven there are plenty of combo's that go fast if your smart enough to recognize the potential. And willing to put in the work.

[Billy Nees]

But not all combos have the potential of others no matter how much time and money is thrown at them.
NHRA (at some point) needs to try and understand that not every Racer that they are dealing with is as "hardcore" as you or the Worners or me for that matter.

[Cdncarnut]

Bring back proper tech and tear downs for a few years and then we will see who is really fast and needs HP or who is not playing by the rules...

[Glenn Briglio]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

But not all combos have the potential of others no matter how much time and money is thrown at them.
NHRA (at some point) needs to try and understand that not every Racer that they are dealing with is as "hardcore" as you or the Worners or me for that matter.

Yes some combo's aren't great and that's where doing your homework before getting into the "pool" pays off. I don't think everyone .7 under there index is what Wally had in mind.

[GUMP]

Originally Posted by Cdncarnut

Bring back proper tech and tear downs for a few years and then we will see who is really fast and needs HP or who is not playing by the rules...

In all of the tear downs that have been performed over the last several years, I really can't remember any very serious infractions being found in either Stock or Super Stock. The rules are so liberal and the technology is so good that I don't see the need to get busted.

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Glenn Briglio

Yes some combo's aren't great and that's where doing your homework before getting into the "pool" pays off. I don't think everyone .7 under there index is what Wally had in mind.

And I agree with that but different Racers race what they race for different reasons. Not all are necessarily looking for the best combo/class and I have always felt that there needs to be room for them too. Maybe I'm wrong but would it be a good thing for NHRA to exclude these Racers? Gary Hampton comes to mind (no offense Gary!).
At this point in my career (?) it wouldn't bother me much if NHRA did away with every class from L down and the FWD stuff. I'd be racing something. But at what point-in-time does NHRA turn it's back on the average Joe and become a sport/hobby for the elite only?

[Glenn Briglio]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

And I agree with that but different Racers race what they race for different reasons. Not all are necessarily looking for the best combo/class and I have always felt that there needs to be room for them too. Maybe I'm wrong but would it be a good thing for NHRA to exclude these Racers? Gary Hampton comes to mind (no offense Gary!).
At this point in my career (?) it wouldn't bother me much if NHRA did away with every class from L down and the FWD stuff. I'd be racing something. But at what point-in-time does NHRA turn it's back on the average Joe and become a sport/hobby for the elite only?

I agree also with everyone have a place to race but don't complain your combo isn't the fastest when you have options. You want to run that combo ,live with what that combo can go or spend the time and money. I don't want the indexes lowered but don't penalize the people that want and work to go fast.