Ken Meile

[Ken Miele]

Originally Posted by Dave Gantz

Ken,

Would you please address the issue that has been, IMO, destroying your board? 1320racer has stated that he has the right to free speech. That's incorrect. This is your board, and what you say goes.

I have PM'd you regarding this issue, and you told me to put him on "ignore". That's all well and good, but when someone quotes him, everyone can see it. The thread then goes way off topic, and, as others have said, is no longer interesting, to paraphrase.

It appears, and I mean no disrespect, that all you want is "clicks", and have lost direction of where your board is going.

Google his name or username, and it's easy to see the disruption he has caused on the web. It's obvious that he has major issues. I hope he seeks help, but we shouldn't be subjected to his vitriol in the meantime.

I am a member of several boards, relating to many different subjects, and I've never seen behavior like his tolerated.

If this isn't addressed, I will no longer log on, and will discontinue my membership if that's possible. I'm sure I won't be missed. That's not my point. I've been a fan of S/SS since 1972. I've helped some racers, and raced with a partner for a few years. I will miss this board, but I won't subject myself to this any longer.

Dave, obviously my pm's are not satisfactory for you. You are being disrespectful, you think its about clicks, you are wrong. Let me give you a hypothetical. Suppose I get an email about you. A member tells me, I don't like the way Dave posts, please remove him. Next day I get another email telling me the same thing from a different member. Do you see were I am going.

He has not broke any rules, if you don't like what he says don't read or respond, its that simple. Do you really want me to be another Facebook, YouTube, and the old Twitter. Do want me to be become like those institutions of political correctness. Is that what you really want... well that will not happen here. If I loose members and traffic, so be it.

If your are not happy with my response, you need to move on. No point in being here if you are unhappy. Its kind of sad to see this type post. What your really are doing is canceling me because a member is rude or you don't like how he says things. Are we that sensitive that we can't handle another opinion when we don't like it. Plenty of members go right back at him, none of them are telling me to remove him.

If you don't break the rules, you don't get band. That's my final say on this topic.

[Dave Gantz]

Originally Posted by Ken Miele

Dave, obviously my pm's are not satisfactory for you. You are being disrespectful, you think its about clicks, you are wrong. Let me give you a hypothetical. Suppose I get an email about you. A member tells me, I don't like the way Dave posts, please remove him. Next day I get another email telling me the same thing from a different member. Do you see were I am going.

He has not broke any rules, if you don't like what he says don't read or respond, its that simple. Do you really want me to be another Facebook, YouTube, and the old Twitter. Do want me to be become like those institutions of political correctness. Is that what you really want... well that will not happen here. If I loose members and traffic, so be it.

If your are not happy with my response, you need to move on. No point in being here if you are unhappy. Its kind of sad to see this type post. What your really are doing is canceling me because a member is rude or you don't like how he says things. Are we that sensitive that we can't handle another opinion when we don't like it. Plenty of members go right back at him, none of them are telling me to remove him.

If you don't break the rules, you don't get band. That's my final say on this topic.

Thank you for your reply, Ken. I really enjoyed your site and I thought about it for a while before I typed it. I understand how it could be construed as disrespectful. I apologize. I think many members wanted to know your take on it. Now we know.

[1320racer]

We expect now that you “will no longer log on and will discontinue” your membership as you threatened to do!

[Frank Castros]

Originally Posted by Ken Miele

Dave, obviously my pm's are not satisfactory for you. You are being disrespectful, you think its about clicks, you are wrong. Let me give you a hypothetical. Suppose I get an email about you. A member tells me, I don't like the way Dave posts, please remove him. Next day I get another email telling me the same thing from a different member. Do you see were I am going.

He has not broke any rules, if you don't like what he says don't read or respond, its that simple. Do you really want me to be another Facebook, YouTube, and the old Twitter. Do want me to be become like those institutions of political correctness. Is that what you really want... well that will not happen here. If I loose members and traffic, so be it.

If your are not happy with my response, you need to move on. No point in being here if you are unhappy. Its kind of sad to see this type post. What your really are doing is canceling me because a member is rude or you don't like how he says things. Are we that sensitive that we can't handle another opinion when we don't like it. Plenty of members go right back at him, none of them are telling me to remove him.

If you don't break the rules, you don't get band. That's my final say on this topic.

Ken,
Thank you sincerely for what you do, as you provide a great forum for those of us who truly love Class Racing. I've been a member since 11/04/2001 and understand your decision based on ergonomics in a business sense, however I disagree with your position on this member disrupting the quality and content of this forum so I will not continue to post on this forum.
Thank you forever,
Frank

[Neal Derochie]

Ken, I have asked before on other subjects why you don't have a dislike button, you may find out your followers are more upset than you think, it would be a much better way to respond to a post than getting into a pissing match all the time.

[1320racer]

this is exactly what the Hollywood crowd does, threatens to leave if they don't get their way and they didn't again and just like back in 2016, they didn't leave the country then and they ain't leaving now and neither is anyone here that's been a regular contributor for years nor do I want them to.

Ken has made his position very clear.

[1700camaro]

My suggestion is making this thread a Sticky. I also like the dislike button.

That will help keep track of one who threatened to leave & the other who will not continue to post. I'm betting they will not do as they stated!

1700/781L

[Alan Roehrich]

I understand, and agree with, Ken's decision regarding censorship.


Sadly, and I understand why they're doing it, people are leaving.


My suggestion is that everyone shut the .... up, stop talking about it, and stop participating. It takes two to tango, and honestly, I'd rather not see any of you dance.

[CMcAllister]

I deal with rude, obnoxious people all the time, everyday. They don't bother me. I can ignore them. I also don't like censorship and am not in favor of people being kicked out whom I disagree with.

What is sad is the number of threads that start out being interesting, educational, enlightening, engaging, and thought provoking, and at some point devolve into a pissing and insult contest with pages that have nothing to do with the original post.

I don't know what to do other than don't take the bait.

Originally Posted by 1700camaro

My suggestion is making this thread a Sticky. I also like the dislike button.

That will help keep track of one who threatened to leave & the other who will not continue to post. I'm betting they will not do as they stated!

1700/781L

I?d like to see the ( Alert the administrator) also. Easy way to keep track of bs..