Top End Throttle Stop

Charles Stewart · 01-27-2025, 04:05 PM

Not an answer for your question but some thoughts and view from Luke Bogacki.
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=792661139585716

jmcarter · 01-27-2025, 06:52 PM

Nick Vogelsang In D3 has had good success and I don?t recall him coming back off the stop?and some seem to even have spot dropping pretty much mastered but sure don?t know how they can do it consistently (barring some sort of ?aide? LOL).

Lenny5160_v2 · 01-28-2025, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jmcarter

Nick Vogelsang In D3 has had good success and I don?t recall him coming back off the stop?and some seem to even have spot dropping pretty much mastered but sure don?t know how they can do it consistently (barring some sort of ?aide? LOL).

I agree; I don't think Nick is coming back off the stop near the finish line. I can't say I'm a strong student of his game, but there wasn't anything confusing happening when we ran in St Louis last October.

With that said, he is real good at putting it on or near the number.

nickh · 01-29-2025, 12:43 PM

Alan Claunch used to TS on topend in IHRA years ago running 9.90 at 102, in a final in OKlahoma his opponent blew out a front tire against him.

1320racer · 01-30-2025, 12:52 PM

IIRC, the late Jim Harrington set up with a top end stop back in the day, might have been the first.

That said, that was a long time ago and the majority of S/ST, S/C and S/G cars make a lot more HP and are much faster now.. It’s not a strategy I think works well today.

nickh · 01-30-2025, 01:29 PM

And I would think that a gust of wind can knock you down .03 and you just lost LOL

JP1738 · 02-03-2025, 09:47 AM

Oh yeah, I never said it was a good idea, just wanted to try it and see if it's worth pursuing further. Also, Ed, given the state of .90 racing these days and the big ci and big mph, I tend to think it's more effective now than it ever has been. The big mph that many cars are running now exacerbates the top end stop, taking both competitors out of the finish line game. That's sort of my goal since I'm already about 25-30 mph slower than everybody else in SG. Why not make it 50 or 60? I can't finish line drive 30 mph slower effectively, few can. So why not just make it impossible for both parties?

01-27-2025, 04:05 PM	#1
Charles Stewart Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 389 Likes: 1,655 Liked 754 Times in 213 Posts	Re: Top End Throttle Stop Not an answer for your question but some thoughts and view from Luke Bogacki. https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=792661139585716

01-27-2025, 06:52 PM	#2
jmcarter VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Richmond Hill GA (and Port Ludlow WA) Posts: 4,297 Likes: 2,386 Liked 3,184 Times in 973 Posts	Re: Top End Throttle Stop Nick Vogelsang In D3 has had good success and I don?t recall him coming back off the stop?and some seem to even have spot dropping pretty much mastered but sure don?t know how they can do it consistently (barring some sort of ?aide? LOL). __________________ Jim Carter 2340 Super Stock 2340 SST/2340 Stock Set another place at the table

01-29-2025, 12:43 PM	#4
nickh Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Houston,Texas Posts: 823 Likes: 3,573 Liked 648 Times in 193 Posts	Re: Top End Throttle Stop Alan Claunch used to TS on topend in IHRA years ago running 9.90 at 102, in a final in OKlahoma his opponent blew out a front tire against him.

01-30-2025, 12:52 PM	#5
1320racer VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,628 Likes: 160 Liked 759 Times in 379 Posts	Re: Top End Throttle Stop IIRC, the late Jim Harrington set up with a top end stop back in the day, might have been the first. That said, that was a long time ago and the majority of S/ST, S/C and S/G cars make a lot more HP and are much faster now.. It’s not a strategy I think works well today. Last edited by 1320racer; 01-30-2025 at 12:55 PM.

01-30-2025, 01:29 PM	#6
nickh Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Houston,Texas Posts: 823 Likes: 3,573 Liked 648 Times in 193 Posts	Re: Top End Throttle Stop And I would think that a gust of wind can knock you down .03 and you just lost LOL

02-03-2025, 09:47 AM	#7
JP1738 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2024 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 577 Likes: 1,645 Liked 1,220 Times in 342 Posts	Re: Top End Throttle Stop Oh yeah, I never said it was a good idea, just wanted to try it and see if it's worth pursuing further. Also, Ed, given the state of .90 racing these days and the big ci and big mph, I tend to think it's more effective now than it ever has been. The big mph that many cars are running now exacerbates the top end stop, taking both competitors out of the finish line game. That's sort of my goal since I'm already about 25-30 mph slower than everybody else in SG. Why not make it 50 or 60? I can't finish line drive 30 mph slower effectively, few can. So why not just make it impossible for both parties? __________________ Dawson Pauley #2827 N/SA 1980 Malibu SW 2S 305/180 #2827 S/ST 1978 Mazda RX7 w/ 383 sbc/glide