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Old 02-09-2025, 10:24 PM   #1
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Your fastest run will be your dial in.

So do you lift at the 1000 or short shift time runs

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Old 02-09-2025, 11:57 PM   #2
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I was watching "NHRA TV" a couple of weeks ago when they were showing races from the 60's.

They were explaining the handicap for Stock and Super Stock... the announcer said the handicap is based on the National Record for the class. For example, the car in the left lane is in a class where the National Record is 10.15. The car in the right lane is in a class where the National Record is 11.15. The car in the right lane gets a 1 second head start irrespective of what ET either car runs.

Is this how it was back then? If so, why the change to dial ins?

I may have misunderstood as I was also reading emails on my laptop at the time...
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Old 02-10-2025, 12:51 AM   #3
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it was that way at one time. Fields got so short that they changed the rules.
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Old 02-10-2025, 10:13 AM   #4
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I was watching "NHRA TV" a couple of weeks ago when they were showing races from the 60's.

They were explaining the handicap for Stock and Super Stock... the announcer said the handicap is based on the National Record for the class. For example, the car in the left lane is in a class where the National Record is 10.15. The car in the right lane is in a class where the National Record is 11.15. The car in the right lane gets a 1 second head start irrespective of what ET either car runs.

Is this how it was back then? If so, why the change to dial ins?

I may have misunderstood as I was also reading emails on my laptop at the time...
In 1974 you ran off of national records for handicap.
1975 they had an index system and if you were faster than your class index you were
allowed to dial faster. Example: SS/KA index was 11.38, that?s the ET you had to use for handicap. If your car ran 11.20 you were allowed to dial that but I believe you were stuck with that the rest of the race. I also believe if you kept winning rounds you could dial faster than 11.20 but not slower.
I?m not sure what year the shoe polish started where you can dial differently each round.
They got away from running off national records because they wanted to make it competitive for everyone.
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Old 02-10-2025, 11:02 AM   #5
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This proposal can be manipulated just as easily as the current "shoe polish" format.

Why do we keep trying to fix what isn't broken...NHRA has no problem filling the quotas that they choose.

Class racing has MUCH bigger problems than this.
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Old 02-10-2025, 11:17 AM   #6
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Why do we keep trying to fix what isn't broken...NHRA has no problem filling the quotas that they choose.

Class racing has MUCH bigger problems than this.
EXACTLY!
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Make it fair for everybody? Then everyone should get a Wally!!
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Make it fair for everybody? Then everyone should get a Wally!!
Seems like NHRA gives them out these days to just about everybody anyway. Used to be a big deal to have one or two on your mantle. Not anymore.
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I was watching "NHRA TV" a couple of weeks ago when they were showing races from the 60's.

They were explaining the handicap for Stock and Super Stock... the announcer said the handicap is based on the National Record for the class. For example, the car in the left lane is in a class where the National Record is 10.15. The car in the right lane is in a class where the National Record is 11.15. The car in the right lane gets a 1 second head start irrespective of what ET either car runs.

Is this how it was back then? If so, why the change to dial ins?

I may have misunderstood as I was also reading emails on my laptop at the time...
That's the way it was. We tickled our record a few thousands (1967?) and you wouldn't believe the flack we received so nobody was very anxious to make the system work. Got even worse when the manufacturers introduced net horsepower ratings.
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