New - Lots of Questions. Help me understand S&SS

[LemonWedge]

Originally Posted by 4406mopar

Your car is mini tubbed so stock eliminator is out.

Very familiar with BB mopar bracket engines is great, but doesn't mean much for stock or SS racing.
Different as night and day.

There are many good running cars on the west coast in all classes A-H, and a few notables in I-M so you won't go very far with a slow car.

SS is just cubic dollars to run far under. Lots of RPM.

What do you get for setting a national record? About 9 horsepower. LOL

Or stay with bracket racing, money ahead.

Sounds negative, but trying to be realistic.

I didn't even get to the entry fees going up and purses not following, and contingencies going away or no payment. Then the amount of time off work needed to attend races.

This sounds like the truth. I do NOT have cubic dollars. Bracket racing is fun. But like most car guys, I?m constantly looking for the next thing. Lots of good suggestions here.
So if I?m looking at this correctly, a 1967 Satellite had a shipping weight of 3534. The 383 four barrel, advertised at 325, is factored at 290 with stock 516 heads. This means the weight break number is 12.18, which slots the combo into SS/K, which is an index of 11.25. To be competitive at all, I’d have to have that combo solidly into the 10?s. That seems crazy to me. With stock heads and a 625 cfm AFB.

Also, Am I correct that under the GT class, you can run an engine combination from another year, such as a 440 six barrel setup in a 1967 chassis??

[1320racer]

Originally Posted by LemonWedge

This sounds like the truth. I do NOT have cubic dollars. Bracket racing is fun.

Then forget this foolishness.

But like most car guys, I?m constantly looking for the next thing.

Until you've won multiple big $ gambler races like the Flings and the Million, "the next thing" is still waiting for you to accomplish and even then, the best racers in the country are still out their every weekend bracket racing NOT class racing, including the guy that has won the biggest payday in ALL of drag racing.

[james schaechter]

First of all. Welcome to the classracer forum! It is always great to have other racers see stock/superstock and consider taking the plunge! The more the merrier!

This forum has a lot of folks that have been in your shoes and chose to jump in and race stock or superstock so this is a great first step. I would add to the suggestions from those that have class racing experience here. My brother and I bought a 69 Camaro bracket car once and converted it to a SSBS car. Everything in that car was used except the gas and oil! It was a fun car and it took quite a lot of work to reach the index and finally to run under, but we had fun and learned it by taking that journey.

I would research the car to ensure it can fit a category or can be modified to fit on a reasonable fashion first.
Then consider the best fit for a drivetrain that you are interested in and will fit your plans for expenses.
Keep in mind, very few people shoot for the class winner or record setting combo at first.

It is more about at least being able to run the index.

The path you choose as what’s next is entirely up to you of course, not anyone else.

If you can connect with a person or persons at a points meet near you, that would be helpful. Most that run stock super stock can provide a lot of context to the written word of the rule book.

One thing to consider also is FGT. That class would allow an older style car like yours to run different and more modern combinations. There is a real good 360 Mopar engine combo that fits and would not break the bank.

The 383 sounds pretty cool, but I don?t know how reasonable it is to build from a cost standpoint.
I do know that building an index player is going to be many thousands less $$$ than a max effort.

For me, I have always enjoyed working on my cars to make them quicker and faster. Basically more efficient compared to others in my class.

It isn?t for everyone, but I would encourage you to do some research and meet some of the racers in person and see the cars up close. People are very willing to show off their cars.

[1320racer]

Originally Posted by james schaechter

First of all. Welcome to the classracer forum! People are very willing to show off there cars.

First of all, your welcome to him is about 8 years too late but you nor most here cared about his posts then and only reply now because he’s asking about stock eliminator which is car is not legal for.

Second, most won’t tell him honestly how much money it cost to build their can no mind how much it cost per year to maintain and those that are actually winning races and championships also won’t state the truth as to how much time, effort and money it cost them to be at the top of the game no mind how long it took them to get there.

[Jared Jordan]

You can run the 440-6 or any other combo you like in the GT classes. If the later model Drag Pak engines are your thing you can run FGT. I’d think there’s enough guys running those throughout the country that you’d be able to find a reasonably priced, gently used piece that’ll get you in the game.

Don’t listen to the forum troll, either. If he really thought class racing is as bad as he says he’d find somewhere else to cry about all his “haters.”

[1320racer]

Says another hater and liar that claims to have blocked my posts because he too can’t handle opinions and advice that differs from his meanwhile it’s no surprise he’s a liar, he defends scumbags for a living.

[Jared Jordan]

The ignore user function also comes highly recommended.

[GTX JOHN]

Originally Posted by 1320racer

Says another hater and liar that claims to have blocked my posts because he too can?t handle opinions and advice that differs from his meanwhile it?s no surprise he?s a liar, he defends scumbags for a living.

Boy: I would pay $100.00 cash money to see you call Jared a
liar to his face.

BTW: Jared served as a very capable and respected prosecutor in his
area of the country for a number of years. Every person has a right
to a competent defense and a presumption of innocence in our nation.

Nowhere in my post did I mention Stock Eliminator in my above post.
The 915 heads or the superseded legal heads are a good basis for
building an engine for either stock or SS.

However, I have seen multiple Mopars in that year range having been converted
back to Stock wheel tubs and spring location from SS. I have seen many
383 and 426 cars raced in Stock competitively included Jared's car
for a number of years.

[Stan Weiss]

Originally Posted by Jared Jordan

You can run the 440-6 or any other combo you like in the GT classes. If the later model Drag Pak engines are your thing you can run FGT. I'd think there's enough guys running those throughout the country that you'd be able to find a reasonably priced, gently used piece that'll get you in the game.

Don't listen to the forum troll, either. If he really thought class racing is as bad as he says he'd find somewhere else to cry about all his "haters."

Jared,
He is just a pathetic, insecure, lonely person.

What he fails to grasp, is that his opinion is probable only correct for one person himself.

Stan

[1320racer]

Clearly NOT insecure, definitely NOT lonely but we expect nothing less from this pathetic old man who has nothing of relevance to add to any thread because he has no 1st hand experience, never raced in any class, never tuned any car competing on a drag strip and whose replies here gather no attention, no traction for his baseless theories based on a computer program!