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Old 06-08-2025, 07:30 AM   #1
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Not-fer-nuthin' but........ you bought a running car in the middle of the season and you're going to take it apart to see if it's "legal"?
That sounds kinda counter-productive to me. IMHO, run the car as-is (it was bought as a legal car right?) and see what it has to tell you and learn from that. You'll have all winter to take it apart and freshen it or "improve" it.
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Old 06-08-2025, 08:18 AM   #2
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Not-fer-nuthin' but........ you bought a running car in the middle of the season and you're going to take it apart to see if it's "legal"?
That sounds kinda counter-productive to me. IMHO, run the car as-is (it was bought as a legal car right?) and see what it has to tell you and learn from that. You'll have all winter to take it apart and freshen it or "improve" it.
Yeah, what he said.
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Old 06-08-2025, 09:01 AM   #3
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Wesley Roberson is working more events and training some of the new tech officials.

Pretty refreshing to see some checks going on again.

I agree, I would not expect a full on teardown at a points meet, but check the obvious safety stuff.

4 cars were booted due to loose ballast at sgmp race 1. They all fixed it and raced in race 2

They later checked some carbs and head casting numbers and rocker arms for stockers.

They also checked me for a clutchless.

They checked wheelbase on some SS cars.

Great way to tighten things up and get some training done.

I would look for more of this.

I heard there were checks at the Earlville Iowa race as well
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Old 06-08-2025, 09:53 AM   #4
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Wesley Roberson is working more events and training some of the new tech officials.

Pretty refreshing to see some checks going on again.

I agree, I would not expect a full on teardown at a points meet, but check the obvious safety stuff.

4 cars were booted due to loose ballast at sgmp race 1. They all fixed it and raced in race 2

They later checked some carbs and head casting numbers and rocker arms for stockers.

They also checked me for a clutchless.

They checked wheelbase on some SS cars.

Great way to tighten things up and get some training done.

I would look for more of this.

I heard there were checks at the Earlville Iowa race as well
And anyone that knows me, knows that my luck is the type that I would show up at the 1st race, get checked and disqualified. I'll sleep better knowing what I have, lol
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The only thing I learned from a friend who runs a Ford SB is you need a really good pin for the cam timing gear .
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It needs to be a GOOD quality bolt, torqued correctly. Most of the good cams already have a larger (7/16) bolt requirement.
The dowel does not keep the gear from moving, clamp force does.
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Old 06-08-2025, 12:50 PM   #7
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It needs to be a GOOD quality bolt, torqued correctly. Most of the good cams already have a larger (7/16) bolt requirement.
The dowel does not keep the gear from moving, clamp force does.
I?ve got a new Jesel belt drive sitting on the shelf from a past project. Should be fine😁
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Wesley Roberson is working more events and training some of the new tech officials.

Pretty refreshing to see some checks going on again.

I agree, I would not expect a full on teardown at a points meet, but check the obvious safety stuff.

4 cars were booted due to loose ballast at sgmp race 1. They all fixed it and raced in race 2

They later checked some carbs and head casting numbers and rocker arms for stockers.

They also checked me for a clutchless.

They checked wheelbase on some SS cars.

Great way to tighten things up and get some training done.

I would look for more of this.

I heard there were checks at the Earlville Iowa race as well
I was one of the cars that was looked at at the National Open at Earlville, and I was #2 qualifier for both races that weekend. Anyone racing Stock or SS this is what we signed up for. If that means taking it apart to check its legal then you better make sure its legal, and be ready if asked. We need more checks that what we are racing is per the rules. Otherwise go bracket race. I agree with Jim, we need more tech checking cars.


Suggesting the guy that bought someone elses car is legal, and not checking it seems risky to me. The lack of a rear firewall would be one of the items I would take another look at on your car.

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I was one of the cars that was looked at at the National Open at Earlville, and I was #2 qualifier for both races that weekend. Anyone racing Stock or SS this is what we signed up for. If that means taking it apart to check its legal then you better make sure its legal, and be ready if asked. We need more checks that what we are racing is per the rules. Otherwise go bracket race. I agree with Jim, we need more tech checking cars.


Suggesting the guy that bought someone elses car is legal, and not checking it seems risky to me. The lack of a rear firewall would be one of the items I would take another look at on your car.

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Sean, it actually does have a firewall. The cell is recessed into the spare tire area, and it has an aluminum cover that Dzus fastens over the top of the wheel well, covering it completely. So no issues there. But there are some things I see that I know are not legal. Like it has an electric vacuum pump connected to the valve covers. I also am not certain that the current rods are listed in the legal replacements. ( Because truthfully, I’m not certain what they are). The build sheet part numbers don’t match anything I know of. And I want to CC the heads and make certain they’re legal. I don’t think the car was built illegal, but there have been rules changes since 2014, and this car had been caught in a time warp. It’s been sitting for the most part. I have to learn how NHRA polices the Stock and Super Stock cars, but I will rest easier knowing that every thing is up to date and legal. Thanks for the observations.

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I hope that after you get it apart that you can find enough parts to get it back together in a timely fashion.
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