Attn 396, 375hp iron head racers

[Bobby Brannon]

I Have no Dog in this FIGHT


Get these racers to SLOW DOWN


Gary Richard
Barry Parker
Jim Bodreau
Woody Pagano

I thinks some of these racers run 396 CI???????????????????????????????

I have no dog in this FIGHT

[Bob Pagano]

Bobby, Woody is not related to me, I met him once before I moved down here to AR

[Mark Faul]

Originally Posted by Dave Ficacci

Mark, is it mathematically possible for the aluminum head average to be brought below 1 under based on what we run at Englishtown? Can it still be saved?

Dave,
I didn't get all the numbers on the aluminum head.I think it would be possible, but tough. There were a lot of runs in B/SA that brought the average up above -1.00 so it would take a few people at .5 to .7 under.
Wesley told me that if we ever have a question about any combination, call him and he would run the numbers.

[Bobby Brannon]

All racers that I listed are entered @ Englishtown

Call Wesley and get the numbers and call these racers to see if they can help.

[Dave Ficacci]

Originally Posted by Mark Faul

Dave,
I didn't get all the numbers on the aluminum head.I think it would be possible, but tough. There were a lot of runs in B/SA that brought the average up above -1.00 so it would take a few people at .5 to .7 under.
Wesley told me that if we ever have a question about any combination, call him and he would run the numbers.

Thanks Mark. I will talk to all these racers this weekend at Atco... Not making any promises though.

on a side note...this playing the numbers game is a chicken **** deal that racers here in Division 1 have to play at Englishtown year after year..and it sucks! With Englishtown being the last race before the review this is becoming a race where we are asked to load our cars up with weight and run different classes because of the carelessness of our fellow west coast racers with the same combos. This same exact thing happening last year with SS racers protecting their combos. We should not have to do the dirty work for the combo while others go 1.15+ at first few Nationals for NO GOOD REASON. Do they not sell weight bars out west?? Or are the egos to big to run 100 or 200 lbs heavy?? There is a time and place to go fast and show off what you have built....why do it where you get penalized?

[Mark Faul]

Dave, Thank you for trying to help out. One problem with the first couple races out west was there were some heads up races that really hurt the average for both combintions. 2 that I can recall this morning were Pomona, Holroyd vs Sorensen (iron) where both were -1.17, and Phoenix, DeFrank vs Diekema (aluminum) and it was -1.22 to -1.23, so triggers were inevitable. I won't comment on the other, non heads up runs that affected the average.

[Jim Cimarolli]

IMO, if they look at the overall average of an engine combination and it figures at under a second under that should be enough to make a decision. But going to every class that the combo has run in and finding one run to base a decision to add horsepower is just a bunch of bull. The system is flawed enough without using that silly angle.

[Bob Pagano]

Hey Dave,
Lighten up on the west coast guys. They only have the PTS Meets & A few Nationals to feed their ego's. They might have one open if my old memory is working. All us East coast & Central guys have many more races available to attend. Opens, Pts Meets & National events within a reasonalble area. I think that gives us more ego stroking than the West coast guys. I bet you would't lay down for another A/SA in a finals, Esp if you could show Sorenson your tail lights. I wouldn't take a dive in the finals for any index. Way back when... I only took a dive or two when the car owner ordered it. Hope you guys work out something & save the 396 HP.

[Dave Ficacci]

Originally Posted by Bob Pagano

Hey Dave,
Lighten up on the west coast guys. They only have the PTS Meets & A few Nationals to feed their ego's. They might have one open if my old memory is working. All us East coast & Central guys have many more races available to attend. Opens, Pts Meets & National events within a reasonalble area. I think that gives us more ego stroking than the West coast guys. I bet you would't lay down for another A/SA in a finals, Esp if you could show Sorenson your tail lights. I wouldn't take a dive in the finals for any index. Way back when... I only took a dive or two when the car owner ordered it. Hope you guys work out something & save the 396 HP.

Bob, no doubt..Heads up and all bets are off ! Not asking anyone to take a dive, just to be smart about it. I understand those heads up races were tight and nothing could have been done to prevent it. Barry Parker and I raced heads up a few years ago at the Atco open in A..We both had the potential to run 1.40 under so we decided first to the 1000' wins then we would dump. Same thing can be applied to Nationals when 1.15 comes into play...unless you are wheel to wheel of course.

[bsa633]

Originally Posted by Dave Ficacci

Barry Parker and I raced heads up a few years ago at the Atco open in A..We both had the potential to run 1.40 under so we decided first to the 1000' wins then we would dump. Same thing can be applied to Nationals when 1.15 comes into play...unless you are wheel to wheel of course.

That says it all..why should it be saved??With a commite..the iron-head probably never would have been in question for hp but the alu-head for sure would have got some...and what have an average to do with the pontential of a combo...something you can tamper with yourself..