Pros to race to 1000'

Signman · 07-03-2008, 01:01 PM

The 1000 ft deal is a band aid to gain some time to investigate and evaluate.

The well budgeted teams will just shorten the candle. The idea is to go as fast as possible and be guaranteed if it is possible to accelerate the car harder in the middle they will. You will still see a puff of smoke from burned pistons going through the finish line.

The cause of Scott's engine failure may have been the rev limiter coming in beyond 1k ft. This short term fix may take care of things for a short time.

The cause of the wreck was the chutes not deploying and the equipment that was parked behind the catch net. Change one of these two and it's possible Connie's son is still here to race.

There are plenty of measures NHRA can take to fix this. Limit the injector air intake area and blower overdrive.
One that will work is to seal the engines before first round. Run it the whole eliminator without taking the heads off. Blow it up and your out.

Somewhere between these is the answer. The average spectator is not going to know the difference between 280 and 325 accept for the number announced. It seems that most agree that the main area of focus is the starting line. Many in the stands watching are seeing a blur when sitting near the finish line.

Time to slow them down in an acceptable manner to all.

mannymen · 07-03-2008, 01:07 PM

All,
Did many of you notice the decrease in speeds for the FC's and TFers at Norwalk. TF's were mainly around 398-307mph (very odd). Was this purposely done due to the short shutdown area at Norwalk and will this be the norm?

mannymen · 07-03-2008, 01:08 PM

meant 298-307

Urraco · 07-03-2008, 06:01 PM

Would the outcome of Scotts crash been any different if they were running to 1000 ft there?

Ed Fernandez · 07-03-2008, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Urraco

Would the outcome of Scotts crash been any different if they were running to 1000 ft there?

Whoever can answer that question has the key to the meaning of life.I think it's time to put this thread to rest.

Ed F.

WDCreech · 07-03-2008, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Urraco

Would the outcome of Scotts crash been any different if they were running to 1000 ft there?

Had they have been racing to the 1000', Scott would have already lifted and tossed the laundry, before he got to the spot where the engine let go, so ther might not have been a serious accident at all.

SSDiv6 · 07-03-2008, 10:11 PM

The F/A-18E has an approximate take-off weight of 67,000 lbs. After a mission, depending on how much ordnance it expended and how much fuel was burned, the approach weight is around 36,000 lbs or higher. The minimum approach speed is a minimum of 155 mph.

The carrier net is a complex piece of equipment; not just a net held by a couple of poles like a badminton or Volleyball net. The dynamics of catching an aircraft are totally different than catching a T/F or F/C. The carrier does not only have a net; the primary retrieval system is the arresting cables. There are 4 cables.

This issue is a very complex one for NHRA and the solution is not that simple.

07-03-2008, 01:01 PM	#1
Signman Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lower Slower Delaware Posts: 535 Likes: 22 Liked 269 Times in 99 Posts	Re: Pros to race to 1000' The 1000 ft deal is a band aid to gain some time to investigate and evaluate. The well budgeted teams will just shorten the candle. The idea is to go as fast as possible and be guaranteed if it is possible to accelerate the car harder in the middle they will. You will still see a puff of smoke from burned pistons going through the finish line. The cause of Scott's engine failure may have been the rev limiter coming in beyond 1k ft. This short term fix may take care of things for a short time. The cause of the wreck was the chutes not deploying and the equipment that was parked behind the catch net. Change one of these two and it's possible Connie's son is still here to race. There are plenty of measures NHRA can take to fix this. Limit the injector air intake area and blower overdrive. One that will work is to seal the engines before first round. Run it the whole eliminator without taking the heads off. Blow it up and your out. Somewhere between these is the answer. The average spectator is not going to know the difference between 280 and 325 accept for the number announced. It seems that most agree that the main area of focus is the starting line. Many in the stands watching are seeing a blur when sitting near the finish line. Time to slow them down in an acceptable manner to all. __________________ Frank Ferrucci I/SA 1271 "Be Thankful for the Gifts You are Given"

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mannymen Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 728 Likes: 5 Liked 13 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Pros to race to 1000' All, Did many of you notice the decrease in speeds for the FC's and TFers at Norwalk. TF's were mainly around 398-307mph (very odd). Was this purposely done due to the short shutdown area at Norwalk and will this be the norm? __________________ N/A

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mannymen Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 728 Likes: 5 Liked 13 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Pros to race to 1000' meant 298-307

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Urraco Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Phoenix Posts: 66 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Pros to race to 1000' Would the outcome of Scotts crash been any different if they were running to 1000 ft there?

07-03-2008, 10:11 PM	#7
SSDiv6 VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Glendale, Arizona Posts: 3,045 Likes: 712 Liked 1,604 Times in 583 Posts	Re: Pros to race to 1000' The F/A-18E has an approximate take-off weight of 67,000 lbs. After a mission, depending on how much ordnance it expended and how much fuel was burned, the approach weight is around 36,000 lbs or higher. The minimum approach speed is a minimum of 155 mph. The carrier net is a complex piece of equipment; not just a net held by a couple of poles like a badminton or Volleyball net. The dynamics of catching an aircraft are totally different than catching a T/F or F/C. The carrier does not only have a net; the primary retrieval system is the arresting cables. There are 4 cables. This issue is a very complex one for NHRA and the solution is not that simple.