2008 Mid Year Stock, Super Stock Horsepower Adjustments Announced

[Ron Ortiz]

Bryan Worner, posted.
"It seems both of us, Angelo and Mark Faul have all done everything we could to protect from getting HP! Believe me, Byron, Angelo and I could have bombed the combo on numerous occasions.....but didn't! Because we value the combo we have and want to be able to use it to our advantage when we have to. But what is the sense if we have someone in a class by himself who continually goes 1.20 under at national events??? "

Sounds like you, Byron, Angelo, Mark, are all capable of bombing the combo. Who is the bad boy in your class, any of you, Mr. Silveus, or some other combo?

Why don't you petition to remove the trigger so you can run your car the way it should be run. I'm tired of hearing about people that say they can go so far under but won't because they are afraid of being hit with HP. PERFORMANCE BASED CATEGORY, my ***. Bunch of people laying low and saying it's strategy, or they're protecting their combo. Would'nt it be nice just to let it all hang out.

REMOVE THE TRIGGER

Ron Ortiz
U/SA Go fast

[JD Smith]

REMOVE THE TRIGGER

Ron Ortiz
U/SA Go fast[/QUOTE]


Ron.....I second that, all in favor, say......'EYE'

[55 Chevy]

Absolutely yes,remove the trigger.Let them run hard & add/remove horsepower as required.

"Eye" from this camp!

Lowering the indexes will NOT solve this problem.

[BLAZER]

Originally Posted by JD Smith

REMOVE THE TRIGGER

Ron Ortiz
U/SA Go fast

Ron.....I second that, all in favor, say......'EYE'[/QUOTE]

[Bryan Worner]

Originally Posted by Ron Ortiz

Bryan Worner, posted.
"It seems both of us, Angelo and Mark Faul have all done everything we could to protect from getting HP! Believe me, Byron, Angelo and I could have bombed the combo on numerous occasions.....but didn't! Because we value the combo we have and want to be able to use it to our advantage when we have to. But what is the sense if we have someone in a class by himself who continually goes 1.20 under at national events??? "

Sounds like you, Byron, Angelo, Mark, are all capable of bombing the combo. Who is the bad boy in your class, any of you, Mr. Silveus, or some other combo?

Why don't you petition to remove the trigger so you can run your car the way it should be run. I'm tired of hearing about people that say they can go so far under but won't because they are afraid of being hit with HP. PERFORMANCE BASED CATEGORY, my ***. Bunch of people laying low and saying it's strategy, or they're protecting their combo. Would'nt it be nice just to let it all hang out.

REMOVE THE TRIGGER

Ron Ortiz
U/SA Go fast

Ron, the problem is the class average. I doubt that our overall engine average was a second under.....but since the review was triggered in one class, and that single class average was more than 1 second under in GT, we got 4 in GT only. It has been petitioned by a few racers that I know of to get rid of the class average, but I guess that didn't happen.

My feeling is we do need a trigger to eventually even combos out.....but like I said before, only counting national events isn't right because you penalize those who race often more than those who fly, but only go to a few nationals a year.

Like most things in life.....there is no simple solution!

[Jim Cimarolli]

The class average darn sure needs to go! Bunch of bs...

Jim

Originally Posted by Bryan Worner

Ron, the problem is the class average. I doubt that our overall engine average was a second under.....but since the review was triggered in one class, and that single class average was more than 1 second under in GT, we got 4 in GT only. It has been petitioned by a few racers that I know of to get rid of the class average, but I guess that didn't happen.

My feeling is we do need a trigger to eventually even combos out.....but like I said before, only counting national events isn't right because you penalize those who race often more than those who fly, but only go to a few nationals a year.

Like most things in life.....there is no simple solution!

Bryan- How bout the 350/295 that has received 17 hp in the last four AHFS reviews. All of this HP was done by GT/AA only. How fair is this system, when all of the competitors have to carry all that weight for a couple three retards!

Sean Cour

Originally Posted by Bryan Worner

Ron, the problem is the class average. I doubt that our overall engine average was a second under.....but since the review was triggered in one class, and that single class average was more than 1 second under in GT, we got 4 in GT only. It has been petitioned by a few racers that I know of to get rid of the class average, but I guess that didn't happen.

My feeling is we do need a trigger to eventually even combos out.....but like I said before, only counting national events isn't right because you penalize those who race often more than those who fly, but only go to a few nationals a year.

Like most things in life.....there is no simple solution!

Bryan- How bout the 350/295 that has received 17 hp in the last four AHFS reviews. All of this HP was done by GT/AA only. How fair is this system, when all of the competitors have to carry all that weight for a couple three retards!

[Byron Worner]

At a minimum the class average needs to go! I posted several months ago to lower the indexes 2 tenths, make the trigger 1 second under and the automatic 1.15 under.

[Jeff Teuton]

I heard NHRA will change the factors for SS/AH. The Cuda which is 108" WB will run @ 9.70 index, and the Dart will run @ 9.80 index because it is 110" WB. And they are gonna group all the six pack cars in one class including the 340 six pack. It will be SP/AA and will run on a 10.90 index and will run the same format as S/ST. The new three carb class will include the Corvettes and Pontacs and any other brand with three or more carbs. And anyone who steps on their car and goes too fast will be flogged in the scale area. The rack is being constructed now. And Ed O'Brian was hired as Public Relations Director for Stock and Super Stock. And the one second benchmark for hp has been eliminated. The triggers have been eliminated. Other than the classes mentioned above, there will be only one class RWYB/AA and just do what you want. All the tech people have been shifted to safety only items. Did I miss anything?