Wes Libby

[Chuck Norton]

This is indeed a disturbing allegation. I've raced against Wes for a long time and he's always been an respected individual in my book, however the report is either true or not true, names of posters notwithstanding. The rules regarding such a maneuver are very clear and accomplishing it at Sonoma without being seen by a lot of people would be difficult. I'd like to hear what Wes has to say, what NHRA tech personnel could add, or what light other racers who might have seen some anomaly in the process could shed on the accusation.

c

[OLD GUY]

Hey Hawk, is that West Coast rule book you talk about like the Carroll Shelby rule book you and Velde used to build those Mustangs?

[Tony Janes]

I cannot pass this one up. I do not know happened at Sonoma but the Shelby's are here to stay. If I had the money I would build one or a 64 T-Bolt.

[Tommy Gaynor]

I agree with Chuck on this one. Everything I have ever known of Wes is that he is a straight up guy no Bull****. So to make a claim like this is pretty bold. I was not at the event but I spoke to my father and many others and nobody I talked to saw anything. I have raced at Sonoma several times and it would be next to impossible to bypass the scale and come back, reweigh and not get pinched by Danny g. and the boys.

[Duane Eiskant II]

Damn you cant even get by with that in IHRA, does anyone know where i can get a copy of the "west coast" rule book..i would love to see it...i want to go race in disney land with those guys..can make a vacation out of it with wife and kids also...

[Larry Hill]

Just another "No Name" making accusations. If Chuck Norton says he is a respected individual, I am sure he is. No one actually saw anything, just someone says on the internet without using their real name and reputations get hurt. Just another rumor.

[Chuck Norton]

Larry, since I posted the original message I've had several private contacts by people who were there. None of them is anxious to become the "whistle blower" in this situation so I'm guessing that what is done is done. I'm 350 miles away, having a hard time understanding the scenario and just asking questions.
This is an occasion in which it should not be the responsibility of the racers to enforce the rules or "tattle" on anyone else. This isn't Kindergarten.

If the report was anywhere close to being accurate, this would not have been a maneuver easily accomplished in a stealthy manner. All of us across the entire spectrum of Stock and Super Stock racing have a serious stake in the rules including the AHFS and NHRA's enforcement of its provisions. If it's allowed to happen even once, the whole system can be questioned.

As I said yesterday, I've known and respected Wes for a long time and it's not up to me to do more than to seek clarification.

c

[Bill Hawk]

Larry and Chuck, dont get me wrong i was not bad mouthing Wes LIbby as i dont know him, im sure hes a respectable indivual and a good racer. I was just asking if this really happened, and if so wondering how it could be allowed to happen.

[Chuck Norton]

Bill,

That's my question exactly!

c

[Bill Edgeworth]

First off I think Wes is a real Stand Up guy. But just to put a spin on this let me tell you what Jonathan Adams told me when I squawked about not getting weighed at Division 6 National Opens; “If anyone cheats on weight, if they go 1.4 under they will get horsepower” So not to go off topic but I think most people would agree we should not get horsepower unless we weigh, fuel check AND tear down and everyone feels that is only fair to protect the interests of other people running the same combo. But Jonathans comments were more towards a self policing situation, no matter what the reason for running fast your combo will be penalized, it’s your own responsibility to make sure you are legal in all ways before the run.
So, if this really happened would there have been a huge stink over it and some horsepower thrown at the 440? Or would the qualifying run just be tossed? Both?