to all 85-92 efi racers

[bill dedman]

Jim Wahl said:

>>>> I give up. Let's just ban all turbo cars because it upsets you.

It doesn't upset me; it makes me think that when 2 or 3 percent of the cars win over 15-percent of the #1 qualifying slots at national events, there's something amiss. I can't imagine that you wouldn't agree.


>>>> While we are at it lets ban all cars with Holley carbs because you can change jets and put more fuel in the motor than factory specs, and that upsets me.

But, you said you didn't care what screws were turned on carbs... has that changed?

>>>> I don't think RWD cars should be allowed to run anything but a factory offered ring and pinion. That upsets me to. Non spec computers upset me.

Why are you advocating equipment changes? I have never advocated ANY equipment change, just the addition of a gauge.


>>>> I went way out of my way to offer you the whole big picture as far as your question was concerned but you want to cherry pick your stats.

No, you changed the subject of the discussion from national event qualifying to include ALL racing, which was never a part of my contention. I NEVER mentioned points races, because there hasn't been the problem at points races that exists at national events.

I didn't cherry pick anything. I included the national event stats from EVERY NATIONAL EVENT for 2004, thru 2007. No cherry picking, just national events (ALL: of them) that were pertinent to the subject matter: #1 qualifiers at national events.

>>>> Nope I don't accept your stats. The REAL WORLD stats are less than 6%.

Not for national events. You want to throw in races that have no pertinence with this argument; Points races were never mentioned,in this discussion by EITHER of us, just national events because THAT IS WHERE THE PROBLEM LIES. Introducing statistics from the Lucas Oil Series of Points Races is totally outside the framework of this argument. The qualifying anomalies that exist at the national event level are not apparent at points races. NO problem, there. Does that mean we can't consider national events as an entity unto itself? I don't think so....



>>>> Once again I say to you, if you really believe that turbo cars are at such an advantage, jump right in! Bill, my point here is virtually everything about race cars are more or better than factory spec


I wouldn't ever run a turbo car because they are too hard to dial. That is not a problem in qualifying, however, and doesn't keep them from qualifying #1, inordinately (percentage-wise, at national events.).

>>>> That is what makes them competitive. Bob Dennis qualifies #1 at more than 50% of the races he enters! Bitch about him. Who cares Bill?

I have NO quarrel with Bob Dennis and what he does. Qualifying #1 with a car that depends on boost for its power is always a sitting duck for speculation. Bob Dennis has no such Achilles Heel.

>>>>I'm finished with this now.

Thank you for your input, Jim. Your inability to explain why two or three percent of the cars running Stock Eliminator (the turbo cars) should be earning over fifteen percent of the #1 qualifying slots at NATIONAL EVENTS tells me that either 1. You don't comprehend the inequity here, 2. Your deep involvement with turbo cars skews your judgment, or 3. You KNOW, but you rationalize that since these cars are so hard to dial, let's give them SOMETHING (like the top qualifying position) in lieu of a win. )

I hope it's not #3.

I appreciate very much the time you took to make your case, here; it is always nice talking to you.