Looking for opinions on payouts!

Charlie Yannetti · 10-07-2008, 12:35 PM

I would have to say that one of my pet peevs over the years has been the ridiculous Sportsmen payouts, excluding the Alcohol classes........... they keep raising the gate and never adjusting the other end......... I only had one crew person this weekend, and it cost $225 just to get in........ I lost 4th round and got $150 back, not even the car and driver entry......... but it did cover my bill at Library 2......... LOL

I think I can say that most of us know coming in that this is not a money making deal....BUT, it just seems ridiculous that you have to go 5 or 6 rounds just to break even on the gate........ not to mention how much we lay out just to get back and forth to the events.........

This should be addressed by our SRAC during the off season......... SERIOUSLY!!!

Oh, and yes, I wish I had that extra hot dog before my 4th round 9.897 loss to Ray Sawyer....... might have made all the difference in my brake foot........ LOL

Lynn Hoosigian · 10-07-2008, 07:22 PM

[QUOTE=Charlie Yannetti;86127
Oh, and yes, I wish I had that extra hot dog before my 4th round 9.897 loss to Ray Sawyer....... might have made all the difference in my brake foot........ LOL[/QUOTE]

It probably would have added enough extra weight to make up that .003!!!!

John DiBartolomeo · 10-08-2008, 05:21 PM

The Divisional payout are all set by the track operators with a little consultation from NHRA (not financial). Two years ago, I brought the payouts up to one of the track ops who happened to be going to track ops meeting. Lo and behold, the payouts were increased in D1 to what they are now. They're still not great, but at least they addressed them. The thing I don't like is the entry fees increasing with no increase in purse. However, I have always advocated looking at the purse before you go. If you don;t like it, don't go. The SRAC has brought up the payouts but it's strictly up to the divisional tracks and other than mentioning it to the Division Directors, there's little we can do. There's always bracket racing which is where I was at rather than Atco. I had some business commitments to attend to also, but Numidia had two $5,000 races. I didn't exactly care for the payout there either, as they tend to put all the money on top and little to the round losers, but... Financially for me it was a better move, as I won Saturday's race and got down to five cars on Sunday. Most all I talked with the round money should be better even if it meant taking some off the top. You just have to keep pushing for better payouts but you have to watch because it can backfire and cause an increase in entry fee, which for me isn't something I like to hear.

vinny laudicina · 10-08-2008, 06:35 PM

that's the thing, they raised the entry fee's and kept the same purse. i wish div 2 would at least pay us like div.1.

Lynn Hoosigian · 10-09-2008, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by vinny laudicina

that's the thing, they raised the entry fee's and kept the same purse. i wish div 2 would at least pay us like div.1.

How ya'll doing Vinny?
Our entry for that "increased" payout is $170 - $175 depending on track!! Not sure what crew has to pay.

vinny laudicina · 10-09-2008, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Lynn Hoosigian

How ya'll doing Vinny?
Our entry for that "increased" payout is $170 - $175 depending on track!! Not sure what crew has to pay.

hey lynn!!!! long time no speak! i know you guys pay a little more up there for entry fee's but it is sure nice taking home $600 for r/u compared to $400!!! you guys gonna be in reynolds?

Lynn Hoosigian · 10-12-2008, 10:40 AM

Not this year again!
Cars are winterized already with everything in storage!
Tom started new job, besides, we played ALOT early in the season - I'm tired!!!
Kick butt down there and tell everyone I said "HI"!!!

10-07-2008, 12:35 PM	#1
Charlie Yannetti Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alpine, NJ Posts: 568 Likes: 188 Liked 192 Times in 83 Posts	Re: Looking for opinions on payouts! I would have to say that one of my pet peevs over the years has been the ridiculous Sportsmen payouts, excluding the Alcohol classes........... they keep raising the gate and never adjusting the other end......... I only had one crew person this weekend, and it cost $225 just to get in........ I lost 4th round and got $150 back, not even the car and driver entry......... but it did cover my bill at Library 2......... LOL I think I can say that most of us know coming in that this is not a money making deal....BUT, it just seems ridiculous that you have to go 5 or 6 rounds just to break even on the gate........ not to mention how much we lay out just to get back and forth to the events......... This should be addressed by our SRAC during the off season......... SERIOUSLY!!! Oh, and yes, I wish I had that extra hot dog before my 4th round 9.897 loss to Ray Sawyer....... might have made all the difference in my brake foot........ LOL

10-07-2008, 07:22 PM	#2
Lynn Hoosigian Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Douglassville, PA Posts: 379 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Looking for opinions on payouts! [QUOTE=Charlie Yannetti;86127 Oh, and yes, I wish I had that extra hot dog before my 4th round 9.897 loss to Ray Sawyer....... might have made all the difference in my brake foot........ LOL[/QUOTE] It probably would have added enough extra weight to make up that .003!!!! __________________ Lynn Hoosigian 1828 SST, SG, SC

10-08-2008, 05:21 PM	#3
John DiBartolomeo Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Beaver Springs, PA Posts: 494 Likes: 1 Liked 1,282 Times in 159 Posts	Re: Looking for opinions on payouts! The Divisional payout are all set by the track operators with a little consultation from NHRA (not financial). Two years ago, I brought the payouts up to one of the track ops who happened to be going to track ops meeting. Lo and behold, the payouts were increased in D1 to what they are now. They're still not great, but at least they addressed them. The thing I don't like is the entry fees increasing with no increase in purse. However, I have always advocated looking at the purse before you go. If you don;t like it, don't go. The SRAC has brought up the payouts but it's strictly up to the divisional tracks and other than mentioning it to the Division Directors, there's little we can do. There's always bracket racing which is where I was at rather than Atco. I had some business commitments to attend to also, but Numidia had two $5,000 races. I didn't exactly care for the payout there either, as they tend to put all the money on top and little to the round losers, but... Financially for me it was a better move, as I won Saturday's race and got down to five cars on Sunday. Most all I talked with the round money should be better even if it meant taking some off the top. You just have to keep pushing for better payouts but you have to watch because it can backfire and cause an increase in entry fee, which for me isn't something I like to hear.

10-08-2008, 06:35 PM	#4
vinny laudicina Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: south florida Posts: 35 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Looking for opinions on payouts! that's the thing, they raised the entry fee's and kept the same purse. i wish div 2 would at least pay us like div.1.

10-12-2008, 10:40 AM	#7
Lynn Hoosigian Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Douglassville, PA Posts: 379 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Looking for opinions on payouts! Not this year again! Cars are winterized already with everything in storage! Tom started new job, besides, we played ALOT early in the season - I'm tired!!! Kick butt down there and tell everyone I said "HI"!!! __________________ Lynn Hoosigian 1828 SST, SG, SC