Pickup bed covers in competition in Stock - Page 2

bill dedman · 10-13-2008, 03:49 PM

Thanks a lot, Michael!!! I don't know how I missed it, except that I probably wasn't looking in "GROUND EFFECTS" for something that goes on TOP of a pickup bed...

Oops... Just realized you said it was in the "IHRA" rule book. My bad...

I do appreciate the help!

G Schenck · 10-13-2008, 03:55 PM

Myth Busters did a show on the tailgate efficiency. They took identical new trucks on the highway and ran them for many miles(A few hundred) and the tailgate up got better mileage

Greg

bill dedman · 10-13-2008, 04:02 PM

Greg, of course, that's indicative of less drag, so it would probably run the quarter-mile quicker in the up position, too, don't you think?

Thanks for the info!

John Lang · 10-13-2008, 04:32 PM

I was just reading this thread for a lack of anything better to do, when i see my name, JOHN LANG about whinning and thought did i have a senior moment? As in, did say something to piss somebody off? I do tend to babble at times but if i did i appologize!! Tell me , this will drive me nuts, as i'm old and don't have anything else to do. Ed, there was'nt anything on that page in DRAG RACING mag, just an add! Later............John Lang

sscrewcheif · 10-13-2008, 04:41 PM

hey there bill
We built a ss/tb truck some years back and it had a fabricated tonneu on it. it covered up the batteries and fuel cell. should be same rules for stock!!!??

John Kelley · 10-13-2008, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Lang

. Ed, there was'nt anything on that page in DRAG RACING mag, just an add! Later............John Lang

Try Super Stock & Drag Illustrated July 1987 page 31....no ads there :-)

Rob Petrie E395 · 10-13-2008, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Kelley

Try Super Stock & Drag Illustrated July 1987 page 31....no ads there :-)

I got it if I can figure out a way to post it I will. Its a story called "The missiles of San Ramon" it appears to be abuout a 73 duster driven in J stock by a father and son. It is written by Bill Dedman. Nothing about pickup covers or turbos

Rob

Ed Fernandez · 10-13-2008, 05:43 PM

John; Didn't read the articles,maybe because i dont have any of the ones you mentioned.I didn't say you were one of the whinners,only that it was going on even then without the benefit of the internet.The whinning just travels faster now.
Ducky;Bill seems to come up with questions that seem to piss off alot of CURRENT racers,he has no dog in the fight.
He's entitled to post and I'm just entitled to answer.
Things must be slow where he lives.

Ed F.

bill dedman · 10-13-2008, 08:38 PM

Ed,

Things ARE slow here, and that's why I'm here. I spent the last 24 years in Kalifornia (the San Francisco Bay Area,) and I was ready for a "slowdown" after passing 65, in 2003.

My opinion:
It doesn't matter a whit whether someone is currently running a car, or not; they can still have an opinion, and ideas about what goes on, and they can be valid. As you well know, there's another bulletin board (forum) on this site for the people who are currently racing. If you think that their opinions and ideas have more merit than the folks who post here, then, that's probably the forum you should frequent. You race, and have a permanent number, so, it would be no problem at all for you. I can't post there.

I was not trying to bust anybody's ba**s with my comments about turbochargers and un-monitored boost levels. I was trying to get some discussion started about what to do about a problem that has been plaguing Stock Eliminator at national events for over four years (and, maybe longer.)

What I got for my effort was songs and dances from people who run those cars, with never an admission that there even WAS a problem at national events, even though I showed them the numbers that strongly suggested otherwise. Even though I don't race a Class car, I got accused of "whining," when in fact, I have nothing to "whine" about. I was just pointing out what I felt to be the the pertinent facts. That's not "whining."

But, there was nothing in the way of support forthcoming from the normally-aspirated car owners, so, I finally had to agree with the turbo guys;... apparently, there REALLY IS NO PROBLEM.

So, I finally gave up trying... probably a good thing. It was never my intention to anger people.
The thing that is still hanging out (it seems to me) is that... if there were no truth to my contention, then why would they care if my plan were activated? It wouldn't matter, if there were no problem.

Oh well; it is what it is.... and NHRA can't make any money by fixing it, so THAT's not gonna happen...

The tonneau cover question was just because of my inherent curiosity. I still can't find anything about the legality of it in the NHRA rule book. Maybe it's just not in there...

bill dedman · 10-13-2008, 08:52 PM

SS Crew Chief,

You said, "should be same rules for stock!!!?? "

Maybe... maybe not. NHRA has some funny concepts about stuff like that.
I have a feeling we'll find out, though, if we keep talking about it, here.

Thanks for the info!!!

10-13-2008, 03:49 PM	#11
bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Pickup bed covers in competition in Stock Thanks a lot, Michael!!! I don't know how I missed it, except that I probably wasn't looking in "GROUND EFFECTS" for something that goes on TOP of a pickup bed... Oops... Just realized you said it was in the "IHRA" rule book. My bad... I do appreciate the help! __________________ Bill Last edited by bill dedman; 10-13-2008 at 08:48 PM.

10-13-2008, 03:55 PM	#12
G Schenck Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Harahan, La. Posts: 521 Likes: 41 Liked 81 Times in 35 Posts	Re: Pickup bed covers in competition in Stock Myth Busters did a show on the tailgate efficiency. They took identical new trucks on the highway and ran them for many miles(A few hundred) and the tailgate up got better mileage Greg

10-13-2008, 04:02 PM	#13
bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Pickup bed covers in competition in Stock Greg, of course, that's indicative of less drag, so it would probably run the quarter-mile quicker in the up position, too, don't you think? Thanks for the info! __________________ Bill

10-13-2008, 04:32 PM	#14
John Lang Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Sheboygan Wi Posts: 391 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Pickup bed covers in competition in Stock I was just reading this thread for a lack of anything better to do, when i see my name, JOHN LANG about whinning and thought did i have a senior moment? As in, did say something to piss somebody off? I do tend to babble at times but if i did i appologize!! Tell me , this will drive me nuts, as i'm old and don't have anything else to do. Ed, there was'nt anything on that page in DRAG RACING mag, just an add! Later............John Lang __________________ John Lang 365 STK, SS

10-13-2008, 04:41 PM	#15
sscrewcheif Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: southern california Posts: 83 Likes: 1 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Pickup bed covers in competition in Stock hey there bill We built a ss/tb truck some years back and it had a fabricated tonneu on it. it covered up the batteries and fuel cell. should be same rules for stock!!!??

10-13-2008, 05:43 PM	#18
Ed Fernandez Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NOO JOISEY nexta NOO YAWK Posts: 5,879 Likes: 38 Liked 100 Times in 45 Posts	Re: Pickup bed covers in competition in Stock John; Didn't read the articles,maybe because i dont have any of the ones you mentioned.I didn't say you were one of the whinners,only that it was going on even then without the benefit of the internet.The whinning just travels faster now. Ducky;Bill seems to come up with questions that seem to piss off alot of CURRENT racers,he has no dog in the fight. He's entitled to post and I'm just entitled to answer. Things must be slow where he lives. Ed F. __________________ Former NHRA #1945 Former IHRA #1945 T/SA

10-13-2008, 08:38 PM	#19
bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Pickup bed covers in competition in Stock Ed, Things ARE slow here, and that's why I'm here. I spent the last 24 years in Kalifornia (the San Francisco Bay Area,) and I was ready for a "slowdown" after passing 65, in 2003. My opinion: It doesn't matter a whit whether someone is currently running a car, or not; they can still have an opinion, and ideas about what goes on, and they can be valid. As you well know, there's another bulletin board (forum) on this site for the people who are currently racing. If you think that their opinions and ideas have more merit than the folks who post here, then, that's probably the forum you should frequent. You race, and have a permanent number, so, it would be no problem at all for you. I can't post there. I was not trying to bust anybody's ba*s with my comments about turbochargers and un-monitored boost levels. I was trying to get some discussion started about what to do about a problem that has been plaguing Stock Eliminator at national events for over four years (and, maybe longer.) What I got for my effort was songs and dances from people who run those cars, with never an admission that there even WAS a problem at national events, even though I showed them the numbers that strongly suggested otherwise. Even though I don't race a Class car, I got accused of "whining," when in fact, I have nothing to "whine" about. I was just pointing out what I felt to be the the pertinent facts. That's not "whining." But, there was nothing in the way of support forthcoming from the normally-aspirated car owners, so, I finally had to agree with the turbo guys;... apparently, there REALLY IS NO PROBLEM. So, I finally gave up trying... probably a good thing. It was never my intention to anger people. The thing that is still hanging out (it seems to me) is that... if there were no truth to my contention, then why would they care if my plan were activated? It wouldn't matter, if there were no problem. Oh well; it is what it is.... and NHRA can't make any money by fixing it, so THAT's not gonna happen... The tonneau cover question was just because of my inherent curiosity. I still can't find anything about the legality of it in the NHRA rule book. Maybe it's just not in there... __________________ Bill Last edited by bill dedman; 10-13-2008 at 08:45 PM.*

10-13-2008, 08:52 PM	#20
bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Pickup bed covers in competition in Stock SS Crew Chief, You said, "should be same rules for stock!!!?? " Maybe... maybe not. NHRA has some funny concepts about stuff like that. I have a feeling we'll find out, though, if we keep talking about it, here. Thanks for the info!!! __________________ Bill