What would U change @ IHRA

Mike Fuller · 10-14-2008, 09:14 PM

Fire Scooter Peaco!

Real Racer · 10-14-2008, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by mike fuller

fire scooter peaco!

x2

gmeyer · 10-15-2008, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike Fuller

Fire Scooter Peaco!

I second THAT

Harry 6674 · 10-15-2008, 10:42 AM

How about some tracks out west.

herbjr · 10-15-2008, 11:23 AM

I'm not going to quote everything I agree or don't agree with in thei post. But I will say that as racers all these things are great you are asking for. But I can tell you that a time run on Sunday in Division 9 takes 2.5 hours. I have a curfew on Sunday from noon to 7pm. I cant give a time run and get the race in by 7pm. And with 200+ cars you cant be rushed for the first 3 rounds, its to many cars. Tracks are having trouble making money at a single pro am race, a double is even harder. If something doesnt happen some tracks will not host an IHRA event next year because of something real simple, is it smart to work your *** off for 3 days and not make any money.

As our first year in the track ownership business we were open to everything possible now for 2009 we have to run this like a business. We have to cut the PORK as the commercials say right now and I can tell you if we up the purses at the PRO AM's over 1/2 the tracks will lose money having them.

I agree with Chip in that we need and equal number of races in each Division and the doubles in SC do hurt the NC races some. But then again I'm in favor of doubles as a racer just not as a track operator. Its a fine line and most racers dont realize how bad the state of the ecomoney is in racing right now and the next 2 years you will see some tracks fall by the wayside. We lost money on our Saturday night combo races BIG TIME, because I only had 108 entries, I had over 220 cars on the property, the sad part is next year we will do no Combo races but rather a Bracket Race one class not 7. Its not the guys fault that raced it or like 4 racers did they entered 2 classes int he combo races. We have to make the right business decision. I'm not argueing the point here just stating facts and not every track can lose money year after year and expect to be around. If I take my 14 worst money weekends this year and replace them with a 10.00 to enter TNT program, I add 100k a year to my bottom line. Thats replacing a race with TNT.....That doesnt mean I make that much on TNT but I never lose on one.

After saying this my brother will be running F/SA next year and my 2 kids will be running the JR Program in Division 9, so I'm on both sides of the fence here. So I go to a division 9 race with 3 cars drop 250 at the gate, the young one has a gold card, its a 500 min weekend for us but then we love it so I dont care what it cost. The problem is more and more cant afford it and its not the entry fee, its not the gas, its not the 30k motors, its not the 200k toters and stackers....its all of the above.

Herb Jr
Track Operator
Piedmont Dragway

10-14-2008, 09:14 PM	#1
Mike Fuller Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 947 Likes: 551 Liked 192 Times in 76 Posts	Re: What would U change @ IHRA Fire Scooter Peaco! __________________ Mike Fuller 396 STK

10-15-2008, 10:42 AM	#4
Harry 6674 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 589 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: What would U change @ IHRA How about some tracks out west.

10-15-2008, 11:23 AM	#5
herbjr VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Greensboro NC Posts: 1,027 Likes: 1 Liked 83 Times in 32 Posts	Re: What would U change @ IHRA I'm not going to quote everything I agree or don't agree with in thei post. But I will say that as racers all these things are great you are asking for. But I can tell you that a time run on Sunday in Division 9 takes 2.5 hours. I have a curfew on Sunday from noon to 7pm. I cant give a time run and get the race in by 7pm. And with 200+ cars you cant be rushed for the first 3 rounds, its to many cars. Tracks are having trouble making money at a single pro am race, a double is even harder. If something doesnt happen some tracks will not host an IHRA event next year because of something real simple, is it smart to work your *** off for 3 days and not make any money. As our first year in the track ownership business we were open to everything possible now for 2009 we have to run this like a business. We have to cut the PORK as the commercials say right now and I can tell you if we up the purses at the PRO AM's over 1/2 the tracks will lose money having them. I agree with Chip in that we need and equal number of races in each Division and the doubles in SC do hurt the NC races some. But then again I'm in favor of doubles as a racer just not as a track operator. Its a fine line and most racers dont realize how bad the state of the ecomoney is in racing right now and the next 2 years you will see some tracks fall by the wayside. We lost money on our Saturday night combo races BIG TIME, because I only had 108 entries, I had over 220 cars on the property, the sad part is next year we will do no Combo races but rather a Bracket Race one class not 7. Its not the guys fault that raced it or like 4 racers did they entered 2 classes int he combo races. We have to make the right business decision. I'm not argueing the point here just stating facts and not every track can lose money year after year and expect to be around. If I take my 14 worst money weekends this year and replace them with a 10.00 to enter TNT program, I add 100k a year to my bottom line. Thats replacing a race with TNT.....That doesnt mean I make that much on TNT but I never lose on one. After saying this my brother will be running F/SA next year and my 2 kids will be running the JR Program in Division 9, so I'm on both sides of the fence here. So I go to a division 9 race with 3 cars drop 250 at the gate, the young one has a gold card, its a 500 min weekend for us but then we love it so I dont care what it cost. The problem is more and more cant afford it and its not the entry fee, its not the gas, its not the 30k motors, its not the 200k toters and stackers....its all of the above. Herb Jr Track Operator Piedmont Dragway