Do you have to have correct hood

Tim H · 11-06-2008, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Isaac Zane

My pet peeve is 70-73 Camaros that are not split bumper cars having split bumpers! After having a 70 1/2 RS/SS, it's just one of those things!

BTW, split bumper cars should have their parking lights right next to the headlights and they,(parking lights) should be round. Non-split bumper (full bumper) cars have a sorta long rectangular light under the bumper.

OK, now back to our regularly scheduled hood thread.......

Hey, I agree with you 100%. I notice this "flaw" so often. I too owned at one time a 1970 1/2 Rally Sport and remember what the front end should look like.

Chris DeGidio · 11-06-2008, 11:19 PM

The Mopar cars get to use the 'glass hood because back in 70 when your ordered the car with the fresh air hood,there was a shortage of shaker hoods and Chrysler used the 'glass hoods as substitutions.There is REAL documentation to verify this.

greg fulk · 11-07-2008, 03:06 AM

This kind of goes with the hood deal...I'm amazed @ the # of Novas that are running as a 69 when anybody that knows anything about them can tell it's a 70-72. Just to bring the rest of ya up to date...the 68 novas were Chevy II's & said so on them somewhere...the 69's were Novas & had short marker lights. the 70-72 had long marker light with the 70 having clear parking lights in the front bumper. sorry for going off course

Trevor Weiss · 11-07-2008, 09:47 AM

I thought Stock is suppost to be stock the way it came from the factory with no body modifications. Changing the hood from what came on it from the factory to me is a body modification. Just one more thing that gets further away from stock, Just my opinion. I do care when I see a car with the wrong hood it just aint right. If you can run any hood that was produced for that model year now then what is next? Fiberglass hoods with scoops, fiberglass fenders, doors, deck lids ect. Where does it end?

OLD INJUN · 11-25-2008, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by greg fulk

This kind of goes with the hood deal...I'm amazed @ the # of Novas that are running as a 69 when anybody that knows anything about them can tell it's a 70-72. Just to bring the rest of ya up to date...the 68 novas were Chevy II's & said so on them somewhere...the 69's were Novas & had short marker lights. the 70-72 had long marker light with the 70 having clear parking lights in the front bumper. sorry for going off course

THE 68 CHEVY II's ALSO HAD THE KEY IN THE DASH!

Bobby Zlatkin · 11-25-2008, 01:34 PM

I remermber when NHRA was so strict (mid to late 60's) that a '57 Chevy F.I. two door got bounced at Indy for claiming a business sedan (no back seat) when the trim tag on the firewall stated that the car was a standard two door sedan, although the car was done correctly.

Both cars would have run D/S, although at different weights. Just that the trim tag had the wrong code on it and you had to run the factory advertised shipping weight minimum. No adding or subtracting weight back then..

That's when stock meant stock. How far we've come since then.

Mark Yacavone · 11-25-2008, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by OLD INJUN

THE 68 CHEVY II's ALSO HAD THE KEY IN THE DASH!

The 68 didn't have the guard beams in the doors,..as if that makes any difference to anybody ....

Bobby Zlatkin · 11-26-2008, 09:52 AM

Each year, '67, '68 & '69, Camaro SS's had different plates on top of the hoods.

Never knew that until I saw a Camaro get bounced at an early 70's Div 2 points meet during tech-in for having the wrong year plates.

Thought that was a bit extreme at the time but understood that 'stock bodied' meant 'stock bodied'.

Nova SS's used the same plates on top of the hood every year ('68-'72), same as the '67 Camaro, so that was never a Nova problem.

RJ · 11-26-2008, 01:15 PM

As Bobby said it sure used to be different. My pop used to run a 71 Duster in stock, NHRA tech gave him a hard time claiming the rear deck lid was suppossed to have a fin in the center of it, the rear deck lid had never been off the car since new so he knew they were full of bs.

Dwight Southerland · 11-26-2008, 06:53 PM

Technically speaking, the "plates" on the '67 Camaro SS hood are not the same as the Chevy II trim. Different part numbers and casting numbers, even though they seem to interchange for fit. The '68 Camaro SS cars with a 350 had the same hood trim pieces as the '67; the '68 396 cars had the four port-hole type. All the '69 SS cars all used the four port hole type trim pieces. This is according to Chevrolet parts books of that era.

The port-hole type trim had a rubber drain tube that fit into a hole in the hood to allow rain water to drain out of the recesses in the top of the hood. I watched a racer from D3 at the '71 Nationals get kicked out of tech line because he didn't have the rubber drain tubes in his hood. What's the chances of finding those at your local Chevy dealer? A local donated the ones off his street car after a four hour search.

At the same race, we got kicked out until we took our sway bar off and turned it over. Seems we had installed it upside down! Another racer from D2 with a '56 Chevy got bounced for having '55 sun visors in his car. ???? Biedencamp.

11-06-2008, 11:19 PM	#2
Chris DeGidio Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 364 Likes: 8 Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Do you have to have correct hood The Mopar cars get to use the 'glass hood because back in 70 when your ordered the car with the fresh air hood,there was a shortage of shaker hoods and Chrysler used the 'glass hoods as substitutions.There is REAL documentation to verify this. __________________ Nautilus Racing

11-07-2008, 03:06 AM	#3
greg fulk VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: jackson Posts: 1,165 Likes: 0 Liked 5 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Do you have to have correct hood This kind of goes with the hood deal...I'm amazed @ the # of Novas that are running as a 69 when anybody that knows anything about them can tell it's a 70-72. Just to bring the rest of ya up to date...the 68 novas were Chevy II's & said so on them somewhere...the 69's were Novas & had short marker lights. the 70-72 had long marker light with the 70 having clear parking lights in the front bumper. sorry for going off course __________________ Greg Fulk 308 308X P/SA "ALL AMERICAN"

11-07-2008, 09:47 AM	#4
Trevor Weiss Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 67 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Do you have to have correct hood I thought Stock is suppost to be stock the way it came from the factory with no body modifications. Changing the hood from what came on it from the factory to me is a body modification. Just one more thing that gets further away from stock, Just my opinion. I do care when I see a car with the wrong hood it just aint right. If you can run any hood that was produced for that model year now then what is next? Fiberglass hoods with scoops, fiberglass fenders, doors, deck lids ect. Where does it end? __________________ Trevor Weiss 2891 STK

11-25-2008, 01:34 PM	#6
Bobby Zlatkin Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Mills River, NC Posts: 417 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Do you have to have correct hood I remermber when NHRA was so strict (mid to late 60's) that a '57 Chevy F.I. two door got bounced at Indy for claiming a business sedan (no back seat) when the trim tag on the firewall stated that the car was a standard two door sedan, although the car was done correctly. Both cars would have run D/S, although at different weights. Just that the trim tag had the wrong code on it and you had to run the factory advertised shipping weight minimum. No adding or subtracting weight back then.. That's when stock meant stock. How far we've come since then. __________________ Bobby & Norene Zlatkin L/SA

11-26-2008, 09:52 AM	#8
Bobby Zlatkin Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Mills River, NC Posts: 417 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Do you have to have correct hood Each year, '67, '68 & '69, Camaro SS's had different plates on top of the hoods. Never knew that until I saw a Camaro get bounced at an early 70's Div 2 points meet during tech-in for having the wrong year plates. Thought that was a bit extreme at the time but understood that 'stock bodied' meant 'stock bodied'. Nova SS's used the same plates on top of the hood every year ('68-'72), same as the '67 Camaro, so that was never a Nova problem. __________________ Bobby & Norene Zlatkin L/SA

11-26-2008, 01:15 PM	#9
RJ Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 248 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Do you have to have correct hood As Bobby said it sure used to be different. My pop used to run a 71 Duster in stock, NHRA tech gave him a hard time claiming the rear deck lid was suppossed to have a fin in the center of it, the rear deck lid had never been off the car since new so he knew they were full of bs.

11-26-2008, 06:53 PM	#10
Dwight Southerland VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Arkansas - In the middle of everything. Posts: 2,001 Likes: 64 Liked 780 Times in 194 Posts	Re: Do you have to have correct hood Technically speaking, the "plates" on the '67 Camaro SS hood are not the same as the Chevy II trim. Different part numbers and casting numbers, even though they seem to interchange for fit. The '68 Camaro SS cars with a 350 had the same hood trim pieces as the '67; the '68 396 cars had the four port-hole type. All the '69 SS cars all used the four port hole type trim pieces. This is according to Chevrolet parts books of that era. The port-hole type trim had a rubber drain tube that fit into a hole in the hood to allow rain water to drain out of the recesses in the top of the hood. I watched a racer from D3 at the '71 Nationals get kicked out of tech line because he didn't have the rubber drain tubes in his hood. What's the chances of finding those at your local Chevy dealer? A local donated the ones off his street car after a four hour search. At the same race, we got kicked out until we took our sway bar off and turned it over. Seems we had installed it upside down! Another racer from D2 with a '56 Chevy got bounced for having '55 sun visors in his car. ???? Biedencamp.